rdtsc 10 months ago

Would we be surprised if the answer is “nothing”.

Of course we can read anything we want from the silence, as it’s unlike we’re getting any details about it. Anything in the range of “of course they did, we’re talking about a civilized country” to “of course they didn’t, how could they”.

yoavm 10 months ago

The fact that these pagers were to be used by Hezbollah is what they did.

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  • astrange 10 months ago

    Iraq War deaths are actually kind of lower than you'd expect them to be. Low enough if that if you want to score him, GWB is net positive because of PEPFAR. It's so good it saved many more lives than even two pointless wars lost.

ars 10 months ago

These pagers were distributed only to Hezbollah members, these were not just standard pagers anyone could buy.

  • NelsonMinar 10 months ago

    Do you have a reference for that? And does it explain how Israel's assassins were sure none of the pagers weren't resold, nor given away, nor that someone's kid was playing with it?

  • seo-speedwagon 10 months ago

    Hezbollah also has a massive social services wing, operating hospitals, schools, etc. I'd keep that in mind when hitching my wagon to this line of thinking.

    • ars 10 months ago

      Those people aren't getting a secure one-way pager giving them secret messages.

      They use a standard phone.

      • seo-speedwagon 10 months ago

        Nothing in the linked article backs up the implication that only members of Helbollah’s militant wing had these.

        It did, however, mention that an 8 year old girl was killed by one of them. Which is a foreseeable consequence of widely distributing a bunch of bombs and then detonating them without regard for who’s nearby.

      • wut42 10 months ago

        Some sources are saying that some medics have been victims. Pagers are apparently a very useful resource for emergencies/medics (see motorola website).

        The pagers were not secure at all also.

  • sureglymop 10 months ago

    Even though I personally doubt this statement, care to explain how that would possibly be enough? If an explosion happens, everyone in range is hit.

    • s1artibartfast 10 months ago

      "Enough" to meet what criteria? A couple foot blast on handheld device on a military personnel is brain surgery in comparison to typical rockets with accuracy and blast radii measured in double digit meters

    • tptacek 10 months ago

      Hezbollah operates a parallel telecommunications network. They are not a terrorist group so much as the de facto government of Lebanon and a parallel armed forces. It is unlikely that anyone unaffiliated with Hezbollah could have used these pagers.

      • jknoepfler 10 months ago

        like I don't know, someone's spouse or child? Someone standing next to the thing when it's sitting on a night stand?

    • jandrewrogers 10 months ago

      Small charges (measured in grams) are extremely local and typically highly directional. They have a distinctive signature that is in evidence here. It isn't like a giant bomb going off.

    • yoavm 10 months ago

      With the size of these explosions, the "range" seems very small.

  • jknoepfler 10 months ago

    you realize they exploded, right? potentially as someone's child was nearby. or playing with it. or in the middle of a grocery story.