amw-zero 4 days ago

And why is that?

  • TheKarateKid 3 days ago

    For software engineering, I have heard stories from all around about the PIP culture due to an 8-12% mandatory URA quota. This results in gaslighting and forced firings to engineers that have a history of performing well.

    I personally know a SDM looking to leave now because he said he was basically told to fire one of his reports who was performing fine, or he would be the one fired. I've read stories of "hire to fire" where they hire ICs with the intention of letting them go in 6-12 months so another member of their team doesn't have to.

    Culture is self-serving, hunger games style. Management is cut-throat and not empathetic at all.

    The NYTimes did a big expose about the toxic culture of working at Amazon, and Bezos' public response was literally along the lines of "we move fast and know that our competitive culture is not for everyone. Our employees are up for the challenge and we are proud of what we accomplish."

    In fact, during the hiring boom in 2020-2022 their reputation of SWE ICs was so bad that they were having trouble hiring. Many (myself included) would receive 1-2 emails from different recruiters desperately trying to get us to apply. We all knew to stay away.

    The sad part is that many of the toxic managers and even ICs have infiltrated much more of FAANG (and big tech) and with the economic recession especially in tech, Amazon's cut-throat management styles like "performance culture" and PIP quotas have been happening in many other places now.

  • notinmykernel 4 days ago

    For many, many people, (majority of programmers, really) morals don't have a price tag. That number could be anything. When you make a programmer choose between some number and customer damage, it becomes increasingly harder to damage the end-customer. This is known as "prioritizing customer obsession" over business function (which is what we're supposed to do).

    Please, everyone, if there has to be a choice, save us (civilization) not them (the CEOs). Please. Think critically.

    • scarface_74 3 days ago

      This is definitely not true. If most programmers had morals, no one would work for Google, Meta or any of the pay to win game companies.

    • amw-zero 3 days ago

      I thought they meant that it just wasn’t enough money. Of course there are more important factors to a job than just compensation.