Comment by cubefox

Comment by cubefox 4 days ago

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It's interesting that DeepMind still publishes this stuff. OpenAI doesn't publish anything of that sort anymore. DeepMind is more research/publication focused, but this is a disadvantage in a competitive landscape where OpenAI and Anthropic can just apply the results of your paper without giving anything back to the research community.

marricks 4 days ago

> but this is a disadvantage in a competitive landscape

Or it's a unique advantage because this stuff doesn't happen without good researches who may want:

1) Their name in scientific papers

2) They might actually care about the openess of AI

  • cubefox 4 days ago

    So far it seems to be a disadvantage as DeepMind has fallen behind OpenAI, despite their size, and to some extent even behind Anthropic.

    • marricks 4 days ago

      They feel behind because they didn't have the smart guy with a new idea a few years back, and HE decided to work at a place which started as open.

      Playing catch up and trying to attract talent from the hot-new-thing OpenAI requires incentives beyond lots of money. I contend actually being open helps.

      I'm sure that's one reason Facebook has an open source model, scientists can care about ethics and could be attracted to openness.

      • michaelt 4 days ago

        > They feel behind because they didn't have the smart guy with a new idea a few years back, and HE decided to work at a place which started as open.

        The "Attention Is All You Need" guys all worked at Google. Google is where they are despite having the smart guys with a new idea a few years back.

        Of course, IMHO it wouldn't have have helped Google if they'd kept the transformer architecture secret. They'd have fumbled it because they didn't realise what they had.