sirobg 10 months ago

I'm sorry about that. I didn't realize it would be a problem. It's been reported before and I'll work on this. Thanks for sharing!

  • lolinder 10 months ago

    It's a funny cultural thing that it wouldn't have even occurred to me that someone in Europe wouldn't realize city names can conflict—it's a chronic problem here in the states.

    There are some ridiculously common city names here, but one that's been in the news lately and probably confusing a lot of people is Springfield, which is the name of at least 42 different cities in the US [0], including 5 just in Wisconsin. Most of them are small, but 5 of them (Massachusetts, Missouri, Illinois, Oregon, Ohio) have more the 20k residents.

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield

    • mrweasel 10 months ago

      Plenty of European countries have conflicting city/town/village names as well. If they grow to large they are sometimes specified by adding more locality to their name.

      Denmark has three cities names Nykøbing, typically specified as Nykøbing Mors, Nykøbing Sjælland or Nykøbing Falser. Small places are just allowed to conflict as long as they aren't in the same postcode.

      • riffraff 10 months ago

        Indeed, Italy has a ton of cities called something like "old town", "new inn" or "castle", for obvious reasons.

      • dredmorbius 10 months ago

        Frankfurt am Main and Frankfurt an der Oder in Germany.

    • chgs 10 months ago

      Every time o put directions to my local market town of Newport in Shropshire, google insists on thinking I want to travel two hours to Wales.

      I guess it could be worse and I’d end up in the Isle of Wight.

      Reused names isn’t just an American thing.

      • zh3 10 months ago

        Ashford Kent and Ashford Middlesex are common issues in the southeast.

        As for Hawkridge in Devon...dark night (not stormy) and it was only when I saw Dulverton road signs I got the sense this wasn't going to plan.

    • 1over137 10 months ago

      I knew city names were repeated in different US states, but they repeat even within a state?

      • elashri 10 months ago

        Yes, There are multiple Springfield in Wisconsin, multiple Madison in Pennsylvania and multiple Clinton in New York. These are some of the examples I remember. And yes it is annoying if you live in one of these towns.

      • brudgers 10 months ago

        Many US states are larger than many European countries.

    • rootusrootus 10 months ago

      > It's a funny cultural thing that it wouldn't have even occurred to me that someone in Europe wouldn't realize city names can conflict

      The irony is that a lot of our city names came from Europe.

    • Tomte 10 months ago

      We usually don’t think much about duplicate city names in America, but we sure notice that you‘ve taken all of ours!

    • xyst 10 months ago

      Guess Austin, MN hackers are just going to have to join Austin, TX hackers :)

    • Muromec 10 months ago

      The amount of cities called "white city" around here is annoying to, but at least they have the decency to be spelled differently.

    • Aeolun 10 months ago

      Maybe they can do something like Discord, and append a 4 digit unique identifier?

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  • dredmorbius 10 months ago

    FWIW, Wikipedia has a list of the most common place names in the United States. "Washington" leads at 91, which means nearly two occurrences per state, though this includes variant names such as "Old Washington", "Port Washington", and "Washingtonville":

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_common_U.S._p...>

    Other issues you might want to consider are locations with multiple names or spelling variants, say, "Ciudad de México" and "Mexico City" or Pretoria/Tshwane, various script variants, or disputed names. Or closely-paired locations, such as Minneapolis / St. Paul or Dallas / Fort Worth. Or those which have changed names (Bombay / Mumbai, Calcutta / Kolkota, Madras / Chennai).

    For the United States, using MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) will tend to group people by urban region, with less ambiguity and grouping of reasonably proximate locations. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a widely-used standard elsewhere.

    Cue: "Falsehoods programmers believe about geography"

    <https://wiesmann.codiferes.net/wordpress/archives/15187>

    <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14891185>

  • user3939382 10 months ago

    Yeah for US it needs to be:

    City, State, Country

    Also not clear if your mapper was expecting “United States” or “United States of America”

    • dumbo-octopus 10 months ago

      Honestly postal code is better. There are many cities with the same name in the same state. Generally postal codes are logical boundaries.

      • stickfigure 10 months ago

        Much harder to geolocate internationally. You really need a geocoding service that accepts flexible input text, narrows the result set, and lets the user pick one.

  • AyyEye 10 months ago

    Check out how many "greenville" s there are. Even several in the same state.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenville

    There's even more than one "Las Vegas".

    • brudgers 10 months ago

      “Las Vegas” means the meadows. The Spanish were usually pragmatic when naming locations on their maps, e.g. Del Rio, El Paso (de Norte), and Presidio in Texas; Salida, La Junta, and Pueblo in Colorado; the Sierra Nevada in California; and El Camino Real’s everywhere.

    • zh3 10 months ago

      'Ville' translates as "town" so "Green Town" :)

      Similiarly in the UK 'Downs' is an old english word for hill so I'm always amused by a local 'Highdown Hill' ("HighHill Hill").

  • joe_the_user 10 months ago

    And to keep in mind, cities are mostly unique in a state but not entirely. There was another Oakland California twenty years ago. I don't know if it still exists 'cause Google no longer works for discovery of things like that.

  • michaelmior 10 months ago

    There are, for example, over 30 cities in the US named Springfield.

    • ezekg 10 months ago

      Funny that I'm also in Springfield and faced this issue. I didn't think it was such a common name.

      • chgs 10 months ago

        Key reason the Simpsons live there - it could be anywhere.

OptionOfT 10 months ago

Same in Europe.

Hasselt, 47551 Bedburg-Hau, Germany

and

Hasselt, 54533 Oberkail, Germany