wmf 5 hours ago

Vizio (and every other embedded vendor) knows they're breaking the GPL and they just don't care. It's not an analogous situation.

razingeden 5 hours ago

I don’t think they’re worried about “my business.”

Open source is notorious for being implemented in $$$ COTS and commerce and then contributing $0 in money and then even less in contribs bug fixes or sharing in house tweaks,isn’t this what Wordpress has been melting down over for a year or two now?

And I’m sure many more projects are pissed off or resenting their chains but not making an ugly scene about it.

Something has to give here.

I don’t have a dog in this fight other than to say that what mattermost went with here “is a choice” , and I have “a choice” whether to accept these terms.

I’m interested in watching how it plays out though. They cast their die. Problems have solutions. We could all get into whether this solution is viable or not — doesn’t matter this is what they went with and they made it clear they’re not taking user input on it. I’m not even a user so I expect them to care even less about my thoughts.

Im supportive of anyone trying to find an equitable balance but maybe that’s a situation where they could roll their own license with these clauses and exclusions.

Its not like Microsoft or iTunes user agreements aren’t complete bullshit, yet people click okay and use all that.