Comment by pixl97

Comment by pixl97 11 hours ago

7 replies

Microsoft has a model nearly as old as the company.

Attempt to build a product... Fail.

Buy someone else's product/steal someone else's product... Succeed.

icedchai 10 hours ago

We love to hate on Microsoft here, but the fact is they are one of the most diversified tech companies out there. I would say they are probably the most diversified, actually. Operating systems, dev tools, business applications, cloud, consumer apps, SaaS, gaming, hardware. They are everywhere in the stack.

Octoth0rpe 10 hours ago

That's a "business" model, not a language model, which I believe is what the poster is referring to. In any case though, MS does have a number of models, most notably Phi. I don't think anyone is using them for significant work though.

  • pixl97 10 hours ago

    It's a word play, if their LLM model sucks too much they'll get someone else's.

    I mean they fought the browser war for years, then just used Chrome.

    • torginus 10 hours ago

      Which is kind of a bummer - it'd have helped the standards based web to have an actual powerful entity maintain a distinct implementation. Firefox is on life-support and is basically taking code from Blink wholesale, and Webkit isn't really interested in making a browser thats particularly compliant to web standards.

      MS's calculus was obvious - why spend insane amounts of engineering effort to make a browser engine that nobody uses - which is too bad, because if I remember correctly they were not too far behind Chrome in either perf or compatibility for a while.

      • Nevermark 9 hours ago

        It would have helped the standards based web, if the standards based web wasn't a fermenting spaghetti monster.

        • torginus 8 hours ago

          From what I've heard a W3C standards meeting is basically a Zoom call between Blink and Webkit engineers.

    • canucker2016 6 hours ago

      Well, they fought hard until IE6.

      Then they took their eyes off the ball - whether it was protecting the Windows fort (why create an app that has all the functionality of an OS that you give away for free - mostly on Windows, some Mac versions, but no Linux support) when people are paying for Windows OR they just diverted the IE devs to some other "hot" product, browser progress stagnated, even with XMLHttpRequest.