Comment by surgical_fire

Comment by surgical_fire 5 hours ago

> Many EU countries have bought US fighter jets (Denmark for instance).

This is more related to NATO than to EU.

> So, when it's "EU sovereignity", which is it, the Polish flavored one, or the French-flavored one ?

EU is not a country. Each country within the EU has its own government, and sometimes they exist in tension and are redundant with the bloc.

It is actually a point in favor of a more federalized EU. Each individual country in isolation is too ineffective on its own.

lucasRW 4 hours ago

No. "Stronger together" is a hoax, and is only true if all participants are in agreement, otherwise you are "weaker together". 20 years of failed projects (apart from the law saying that bottles should have their cap attached) show that it is impossible to reach consensus with 27 participants.

Put 27 people in a room, all wanting something different, nothing comes out.

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surgical_fire 6 minutes ago

You are wrong.
Every country in EU is materially better in the bloc, and the only country that left it is much worse for it.
Brexit was such a monumental disaster for the UK that even far right morons in other EU countries had to massively tone down if not abandon any "exit" rhetoric. Now their strategy is to "reform" the EU (i.e.: weaken it).
> 20 years of failed projects (apart from the law saying that bottles should have their cap attached)
This alone shows you are unwilling to engage with the idea of the EU in good faith, thus this conversation with you is a massive waste of my time.
The EU is not perfect (and in fact the expectation of unanimous decisions via veto powers is one if its main weaknesses). But every country, including my own, would be much worse without it.
I will not reply any further, feel free to have the last word.

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