Comment by Forgeties79

Comment by Forgeties79 17 hours ago

They got caught torrenting unbelievable amounts of content, an act that committed even just a few times can get my home Internet shut down with no recourse (best outcome). Literally nothing happened. Combine the fact that nothing legally significant ever happens to them with zuckerburg’s colossal ego and complete lack of ethical foundation, and you have quite the recipe.

And I’m not even getting into the obvious negative social/political repercussions that have come directly from Facebook and their total lack of accountability/care. They make the world worse. Aside from the inconvenience for hobbyist communities and other groups, all of which should leave Facebook anyway, we would lose nothing of value if Facebook was shut down today. The world would get slightly better.

gruez 14 hours ago

>an act that committed even just a few times can get my home Internet shut down with no recourse (best outcome).

No, the best (and also most likely) outcome is you using a VPN and nothing happens, like 99.9% of pirates out there.

>Literally nothing happened.

Isn't there a lawsuit in the works?

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Forgeties79 13 hours ago

If you have to do a thing that obscures your act it doesn’t change the fact that there are rules for me and not them. We know for a fact they did it. Did their ISP threaten them? Did they get their internet service shut off?
Edit: they already won their first case in June against authors. I am very curious to see how that lawsuit goes. Obviously we don’t know the results yet but I would be incredibly surprised to see them lose and/or have to “undo” the training. That’s a difficult world to imagine, especially under the current US admin. Smart money is the damage is done and they’ll find some new way to be awful or otherwise break rules we can’t.

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- gruez 12 hours ago
  
  >If you have to do a thing that obscures your act it doesn’t change the fact that there are rules for me and not them. We know for a fact they did it. Did their ISP threaten them? Did they get their internet service shut off?
  Is there any indication they didn't use a VPN? If they did use a VPN, how is it "there are rules for me and not them", given that anyone can also use VPN to pirate with impunity?
  
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  Forgeties79 11 hours ago
  
  I don’t understand what you’re doing here. They were caught. We know they did it. There are several articles about it. They have been sued over it because it happened. I don’t think anything will come of it, but they clearly did it. It is public knowledge.
  
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  gruez 7 hours ago
  
  You claim there's some two tier legal system for Meta compared to the average torrenter, by virtue of their internet not getting cut off. However that's a false premise. You only get your internet cut off if you fail to use a VPN. If Meta used a VPN (like most pirates do), then their internet staying up isn't evidence of any special treatment.
  If there's some two tier treatment of Meta, it's that they're being sued more aggressively than the average pirate. If you pirated Stranger Things, you can blab all you want about your copyright infringement escapades, and you'll unlikely never face any legal consequences. OTOH once word got out that Meta torrenting books, every copyright lawyer out there is going after them.
  
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bayarearefugee 17 hours ago

> Literally nothing happened.

The true wealthy live by an entirely different set of rules than the rest of us, especially when they are willing to prostrate themselves to the US President.

This has always been true to some degree, but is both more true than ever (there used to be some limits based on accepted decorum) plus they just dont even try to hide it anymore.

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Forgeties79 16 hours ago

I think the not hiding it part is what’s starting to stick in my craw. We all knew it was happening on some level, but we felt that there were at least some boundaries somewhere out there even if they were further than ours. Now it just feels like the federal government basically doesn’t exist and companies can do whatever they want to us.

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