Comment by Zigurd

Comment by Zigurd 19 hours ago

20 replies

True but obv. Only lunatics would use a Russian cloud service. The interesting part is whether and what extent China is different. Also, why Europe should start treating us like Russians.

ericmay 14 hours ago

> The interesting part is whether and what extent China is different

Much worse for the EU, both strategically and economically. You’ll be able to buy Chinese services and give them your data and money, but you won’t be able to operate in their market. Germany is feeling the pain there. [1] Strategically they’re a Russian ally and are actively supporting Russia’s war against Ukraine and further aims against the EU.

Something like Russia -> China -> US as worst to least worst partners.

The EU should invest in technical and military capabilities and divest from reliance on other countries and echos the US American position very closely.

[1] For example https://www.autoblog.com/features/germanys-auto-industry-is-...

allarm 18 hours ago

> why Europe should start treating us like Russians.

I don't know, maybe because your president is a dangerous lunatic? I really enjoy these "are we the baddies?" moments.

  • spiderfarmer 17 hours ago

    I’m not sure he’s getting it yet. Maybe he’s just not personally affected yet.

  • throwaway902984 17 hours ago

    Was that not an imperative statement agreeing with your cathartic comment? A little weird there isn't an explicit "this is why", but asking questions with a poorly conjugated why along with bad punctuation isn't usually a native speakers habit.

    • bee_rider 14 hours ago

      They said in a follow-up comment that they intentionally wrote something ambiguous, so… I don’t know, I wouldn’t waste too many cycles on comments that are deliberately unclear.

isodev 18 hours ago

> why Europe should start treating us like Russians

Because your CEOs have become power players in your politics and that’s generally a Russian/Oligarch thing.

Like Apple trying to wiggle their way out of the DMA and when their bs arguments fail in court they send peach daddy with tariffs and what not.

kaffekaka 18 hours ago

You have a pro-russian leader.

  • philipallstar 18 hours ago

    The massive sanctions he's placing on Russian oil make that impossible to believe.

    • wokkel 17 hours ago

      Those can also be explained by favouring usa/venezuela oil while still supporting Russian politics. For example: in the Ukraine war he is constantly seeking ways and arguments to support putins position even though he is one of the few leaders worldwide who do this.

      • philipallstar 14 hours ago

        They're not favouring - they're even enforcing secondary sanctions on Russian oil on China and India, which is difficult and expensive.

        The fact that you can divine pro-Putin things from his speech means nothing compared to him performing massively powerful economic action against Putin.

    • varispeed 14 hours ago

      These sanctions make no difference, except make people say things like you say.

    • throwaway902984 17 hours ago

      I think it is fair to separate putin and russia. I mean, I don't think he uses our society as proxy for his own ego. I think he really likes Putin.

    • spiderfarmer 17 hours ago

      You must be one of the few who still believes what Trump says to the media after nearly 100k proven lies.

      • philipallstar 14 hours ago

        Is that because there are no primary or secondary sanctions? Or are you just ignoring what I'm saying?

        • watwut 13 hours ago

          You are ignoring Trump literally adopting Russian proposals and demands in that war as they are. Trump and america flipped sides, seeing Russia as admirable peer and Ukraine as someone who should shut up and put up.

          Trump want deals with russia to enrich himself. For that he needs Ukraine to loose. Bad thing is Putin does not have enough, he wants the rest of Europe too.