Comment by generic92034

Comment by generic92034 a day ago

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It is a bit more than "spitting on each other" which now is between the USA and its former allies. I seriously doubt that we will just go back to normal the moment there is a US president from the Democratic party. Possibly in some areas of politics and economy, in others (real) trust is more essential.

ben_w a day ago

I believe at the moment it's still in the "spitting on each other" phase. Had Trump actually invaded Greenland* (and likewise if he does so in the future), that's where the Rubicon gets crossed and there's no going back.

I kinda do want it to have passed that point, but not as much as I'm glad he TACOed.

* There's other metaphorical Rubicons available, this is just the one most in my mind given I live in the EU

  • Throaway3126 a day ago

    Trump and his team repeatedly saying they have no problems using force against Greenland and Canada were the red lines and they have already been crossed.

    • ben_w a day ago

      I want those actions to have been the red line, and wish my representatives to treat it so if they are not yet. It is important to keep separate what I want to be and what is.

      • Throaway3126 a day ago

        They are the red lines. There is no going back. The USA is too dangerous to rely on, that's quite clear.

        People don't quite realize how big a deal "invading" Greenland would have been. That's literally an act of war! What's next, occupying France? Saying that it's at all a possibility is far beyond any red line that the EU thought it would have to deal with.

        Not only would the rest of the world ditch the USA, but the Democrats themselves would take the opportunity to publically announce that they do not recognize Donald Trump's government.