Comment by esskay
Name some. Some that match those kinds of services mentioned that people need from AWS.
Name some. Some that match those kinds of services mentioned that people need from AWS.
https://european-alternatives.eu/
Based on your comment you probably aren't gonna discuss in good faith but move the goalposts each time.
Yeah this is just circular reasoning. You don't go from zero to AWS the same way AWS didn't go from zero to what it is today. They started with a few basic features and built up from there. There are plenty of EU alternatives that have those same basic features AWS had a while ago, but until it makes economic sense to replicate all of it, no EU company is going to do so.
Whether you can switch from AWS to an EU alternative depends solely on how deep down the rabbit hole you are. If you're just looking for basics to host your stuff, you can. If you want to never have to touch Linux but to rely solely on proprietary abstractions on top of Linux, you can't.
What makes you think I'll move the goalpost - the original question was pretty clear; EU cloud providers who offer services like AWS does.
What you've linked to is a broad scope site listing a multitude of EU based products and services, making it look like you cant even list ONE let alone a few .
Don't pull the 'moving the goalpost' nonsense, the original post you replied to made it very clear they were talking about an AWS comparison, and a cursory glance at the 'cloud providers' section of that site shows a bunch of EU hosting providers offering general VPS hosting, which isn't remotely close to being the same kind of thing.
Ok let me try this, because I can assure you my intent is not to throw some sort of "gotcha" in here. I'm thinking about this purely from my own personal usecase, and right now as far as I'm aware theres no AWS alternative in the EU that can do all this for me. Nothing I am using here relies on some sort of obscure feature of each service at all.
My usecase is:
- MySQL (using Aurora but really dont need to), hands off like it is on RDS so yeah a managed service would be preferred.
- 2x VM instances with internal networking and an EFS drive connecting the two (The efs drive is critical for a ton of applications)
- Load balancer
- S3 + Cloudfront for CDN
And a few more bits I appreciate are very niche to my usecase but would be nice to keep under the same vpc:
- SQS queue workers (can switch to something redis based if needed)
- SES mail service (again can switch to another 3rd party as i doubt many people offer this)
- Lambda for some app specific background processing
Hopefully this kinda explains my position. Yes, I can split a lot of this out into multiple individual providers who specialise in just that one thing. And perhaps that's the way to go. But I dont think you can deny it's a heck of a lot more convenient to have all of it in one place.
Scaleway has all of that except EFS which should be solved another way anyway realistically, and the CDN.
Object Storage as a replacement for EFS, or CIFS if its a legacy server app, or if you hate yourself: NFS.
Theres options here, but thats the only real snag.
For the CDN, I’d go with Bunny, its not in the same suite but its actually better than AWS CDN anyway.
scaleway, ionos, hechner, ovcloud.
They may not have every single thing that AWS has but you can build solid infrastructure on top of those.
If you use AWS virtual machines https://european-alternatives.eu/category/vps-virtual-privat... (some of these also do managed load balancers, managed databases)
If you use AWS for object storage: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/object-storage-pro...
If you use SES: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/transactional-emai... (but hosting your own is also a viable option)
CDNs: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cdn-content-delive...
There isn't any single provider that can match each and every AWS service. But for subsets of services there are options.
If there's a specific AWS service that you cannot get anywhere else but do absolutely need, that's vendor lock-in. Would it be fair to blame EU companies for your bad decisions?