Comment by ZiiS
Comment by ZiiS a day ago
Given their inherit latency, and cost; the equation for running everything via Wireguard is surly worth it.
Comment by ZiiS a day ago
Given their inherit latency, and cost; the equation for running everything via Wireguard is surly worth it.
Wireguard to where? Another ISP/VPN that can also sell/MITM your traffic just as well? Non-residential exit IPs are also very often blocked by many websites.
https fixes that mostly - unless your talking about metadata
My home internet is 5G, and many, many websites are blocked or have infinite captcha loops... even well-known sites. Etsy is blocked. Reddit/Discord/Locals is blocked. Archive.is only captcha loops. Even libera IRC is blocked. Trying to buy products online often gets the order flagged or canceled as a potential bot or VPN. IPs are rotated often so I unfortunately have to share bad-reputation IPs with people who keep the addresses on global blacklists like DroneBL that are used by many sites. Even 4chan blocks most of the IPs I get because other people post CP from there.
Trying to use a VPS/cloud IP or well-known VPN provider, the experience for me is just as bad or worse.
For some, the issue is a lot worse than you think.
I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.
You're not the target audience.
In many places, 5G doesn't work and you have to pay a lot for fiber installation.
I live in a place with no fiber and no 5G. Here’s your business case.
So a high latency connection that is also susceptible to atmospheric effects and run by a madman is okay?
I am still on DSL because there is no fiber or 5g internet here yet*. And I live on the edge of an area with 500k people. DSL is good enough for 4k streaming video and anything else I need and costs me $65.
Why on earth would I want to make things worse by using starlink?
Of course, if I lived 50 miles from a gas station, that is different. But living rural has many risks and downsides that the people out there accept.
*This is the real issue. If corporations had to put its customers(and employees) on the same level as shareholders(very few actually benefit the corporation directly because they don't buy stock directly from the company) a lot of problems would be solved. Or, if companies realized that taking care of the customer and employees first means that everything else will follow.
>So a high latency connection
It's hard to take the rest of your comment seriously when you're starting your comment off with this. Independent reviews says latency is in the 20-30ms range. That's in the same range (if not better) than cellular internet, and even though coax/DSL might lower, you won't really notice unless you're a competitive esports streamer or running a HFT bot out of your basement.
You clearly talk a lot but ask very few questions and make a lot of assumptions.
My only other option here is a FWA connection that is 1/10th the speed, it’s even more subjected to weather and costs me the same. That is it.
There is no DSL good for anything. Say what you want about the man (which I’m definitely not a fan of at this point) but Starlink is solving a real issue for many people.
I’m in Europe. Where I live 4g is spotty at best. My two options are Starlink that gives me a 350/50 connection or a legacy provider that has a FWA 30/5 at the same price.
That’s it, those are the two options. Difference in price between those two is 4€
There are massive areas in the US not covered by 5G, or any cell service. Are you just assuming that coverage is 100% everywhere?
Most places I'm at with 5G also have really poor speeds, usually under 10Mbps download with fairly high latency. Not really suitable for a primary internet connection.
You don’t even have to get very remote in Australia before the best on offer was dialup over copper before starlink.
… now multiply that by all the remote regions of earth.
I already do this on my Starlink as well as my terrestrial residential cable modem. The GL.inet routers work great for this.