Comment by consumer451 a day ago
To use the parlance of this thread: "next" foundation models is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Am I doing this right?
My point is, does Apple have any useful foundation models? Last I checked they made a deal with OpenAI, no wait, now with Google.
Do you mean like OCR in photos? In that case, yes, I didn't think about that. Are there other use cases aside from speach to text in Siri?
I think they are also used for translation, summarization, etc. They're also available to other apps: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/FoundationModels
Thanks, I am a dumb dumb about Apple, and mobile in general. I should have known this. I really appreciate the reply so that I know it now.
If they were taking that approach, they would have absolutely first-class integration between AI tools and user data, complete with proper isolation for security and privacy and convenient ways for users to give agents access to the right things. And they would bide their time for the right models to show up at the right price with the right privacy guarantees.
I see no evidence of this happening.
As an outsider, the only thing the two of you disagree on is timing. I probably side with the ‘time is running out’ team at the current juncture.
Arena mode! Which reply do you prefer? /s
But seriously, would one be for newer phone/tablet models, and one for older?
It sounds like the first one, based on Gemini, will be more a more limited version of the second ("competitive with Gemini 3"). IDK if the second is also based on Gemini, but I'd be surprised if that weren't the case.
Seems like it's more a ramp-up than two completely separate Siri replacements.
Apple can make more money from shorting the stock market, including their own stock, if they believe the bubble will deflate.
Apple does have their own small foundation models but it's not clear they require a lot of GPUs to train.