Comment by pllbnk

Comment by pllbnk 2 days ago

9 replies

To me it looks like some of the more “interesting” posts are created by humans. It’s a pointless experiment, I don’t understand why would anyone find it interesting what statistical models are randomly writing in response to other random writings.

keiferski 2 days ago

I think the level at which someone is impressed by AI chatbot conversation may be correlated with their real-world conversation experience/ skills. If you don’t really talk to real people much (a sadly common occurrence) then an LLM can seem very impressive and deep.

  • tildef 2 days ago

    I'd argue that talking a lot with real people is a stronger predictor of finding conversations with a chatbot meaningful.

    • pllbnk 2 days ago

      I never considered this aspect at all. To me it feels more that some people find it really fascinating that we finally live in the future. I think so too, just with a lot of reservations but fully aware that the genie has been let out of the bottle. Other people are like me. And the rest don’t want any part of this.

      However, personal views aside, looking at it purely technically, it’s just a mindless token soup, that’s why I find it weird that even deeply technical people like Andrej Karpathy (there was a post made by him somewhere today) find it fascinating.

rhubarbtree 2 days ago

And what exactly do you think you are, sir?

  • pllbnk a day ago

    A human, not a statistical model. I can insert any random words out of my own volition if I wanted to, not because I have been pre-programmed (pre-trained) to output tokens based on a limited 200k (tiny) context for one particular conversation and forget about it by the time a new session starts.

    That’s why AI models, as they currently are, won’t ever be able to come up with anything even remotely novel.

    • rhubarbtree a day ago

      Well, if you believe you’re powered by physical neurons and not spooky magic, that doesn’t seem very different from being a neural net.

      I see no evidence for you magical ability to behave outside of being a function of context and memory.

      You don’t think diffusion models are capable of novelty?

      • pllbnk a day ago

        Neural networks is an extremely loose and simplified approximation of how actual biological brain neural pathways work. It’s simplified to the point that there’s basically nothing in common.

      • turtlesdown11 a day ago

        lol, I love the irrational confidence of the dunning kruger effect