zdragnar 2 days ago

Pretty much any place with brutalist architecture, really. I'll happily take pretty much any revival or classical style over "modern" or brutalist style.

There's nothing more depressing than walking by beautiful historic old buildings only to turn a corner and see a monstrosity of concrete and glass somehow reaching the epitome of bland and uninviting.

  • _kb a day ago

    Hard disagree. This is what brutalism looks like in sunny, subtropical Brisbane, Australia: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:QPAC_Exterior.jpg

    If the straight concrete isn’t your thing, they’re also currently extending it with a glasshouse: https://www.snohetta.com/projects/queensland-performing-arts...

    • wiseowise a day ago

      Looks even worse in the sun. At least it belongs in the depressing, shitty weather.

      • liamwire a day ago

        What's depressing and shitty about Brisbane's weather?

    • strken a day ago

      I don't hate brutalism but I'd much rather have the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Exhibition_Building than QPAC, rain or shine.

      • ahoka a day ago

        I think both look ugly and megalomaniac.

        • strken 15 hours ago

          You're entitled to that opinion, but if you give an alternative for how a big multi-storey building for large events and crowds should look then it will move the discussion forward.

      • harimau777 a day ago

        To me the issue is that the alternative to brutalism isn't classic, art deco, art nouveau, googie, etc. It's soulless glass and steel designs.

        I'd rather have classic, art deco, etc. to brutalism but I'd MUCH rather have brutalism to modern glass and steel.

    • zdragnar a day ago

      Eh... The concrete looks to me like a bland imitation of Spanish Adobe style building.

      It's better than most of the brutalism we have around here, I'll grant you that, but still not really my cup of tea.

  • harimau777 a day ago

    I never understood the dislike for brutalist architecture. To me, at least it looks like something. It's got soul and expresses an artistic idea even if that idea is "the overbearing power of the state". Personally, I'd take that over the soulless glass and steel buildings that seem to be today's alternative.

    • Lorkki a day ago

      Brutalism doesn't signify "brutality" though, it's about leaving the building materials bare and favouring clean lines. Those glass and steel buildings could also be considered brutalist architecture of a different flavour.

    • wlonkly 17 hours ago

      Brutalism isn't named after brutality, it's after French _brut_, "raw", as in exposed (raw) concrete.

  • ajmurmann a day ago

    As someone who likes many cases of brutalist architecture, I wonder if you'd explains why many of the examples I like are in Mexico whereas many of the negative examples are in the UK.

dbacar 2 days ago

Apart from some lucky places, most of the world cities looks like this or worse.

  • ex-aws-dude 2 days ago

    That is something I've found over the years with traveling.

    You watch a bunch of travel videos and think the place you're visiting is going to be so different but its just the same overcast sky and ocean and washed out color palette as home.

    Once you remove all the filters, color correction, and drone shots from influencer travel videos a lot of places look the same IRL.

    • arjie a day ago

      I cannot relate to this at all. Even just Valparaiso and Venice (two towns) are so different from each other. Even if you make weather dreary it’s a different feeling.

      Then you consider Patagonia or Norway and compare it with the California Coast. The world is full of beauty.

      • lukan a day ago

        Agreed. Also the trick is, if you end up in an ugly place while traveling ... you just move on, until you find beauty again (so don't book in advance too much).

    • wincy a day ago

      Really? I drove from Kansas to the Florida Keys in November, stayed at an ocean front hotel where it was a blissful 83°F, and it felt like our own slice of heaven. We stayed a few extra days over Thanksgiving just to laze in the pool while our kids splashed in the water. Being able to drive away from the snow and the cold into paradise was amazing, and being able to go with my family made me feel richer than a king.

      • yetihehe a day ago

        I traveled a little and was also happy to mostly see the nice side of most places. Some of us are lucky, some just always try to see the best in things. Beauty is in the eye of beholder. Also, some people here commented that they like this antirender look. Maybe by contrast. I talked with someone from Ecuador and they said they like when it rains. It was this lat autumn, when we didn't see sun for several weeks and everything was gloomy, looking even worse than in those photos, additionally colored by bad mood of everyone.

    • agumonkey a day ago

      Some regions with traditional construction material do have better feel. Rare though.

    • joquarky 16 hours ago

      I like the walking videos with minimal editing. They feel more genuine and I get to see places I'll never get to see in person.

    • kstenerud a day ago

      Try visiting Przemysl or Lviv. Stunningly beautiful.

      • xenospn a day ago

        Hard agree. Lviv feels like a real city (for better or worse) because no one demolished entire city blocks to make it more appealing in 1985. I was there about a year ago and loved it.

    • ben_w a day ago

      Hmm.

      I'd say that despite similarities for places built at the same time as each other, there's a huge range of variation in the places I've been.

      First trip to the US was California, and the geography of the hills around Central Valley were substantially different in different places just within that region. Southwest, I saw hills that looked like Bryce's default textures which I'd previously assumed were mediocre approximations rather than based in reality; the Redwoods and Yosemite are very different from each other and the aforementioned, and the hills west of Winters and east of Sacremento are different again, and of course all are different to the Valley itself. On another trip I saw the Bonneville Salt Flats, I've yet to see anything else like them. All these are very different from the views around Zürich, or the UK South Downs (which unsurprisingly given the name is similar to New England and Brittany), and all those are different to the west coast of Wales; when I later saw the Spanish Mediterranean coast and the area around Athens, they reminded me of some of the wine areas around Paso Robles (which shouldn't be surprising given wine).

      Within cities, Berlin has incredibly wide streets unlike anything I've found elsewhere; Athens is the exact opposite, with at least a few of roads in the tourist core (near the Parthenon) almost too narrow even for the smaller size of car common in Europe and pedestrian paths only a few cm wider than my elbows are apart, and so many ancient ruins you could practically trip and fall over them. The UK and Germany where I've lived, one can quickly learn to spot which era any given house was made in, with a handful of still-standing medieval buildings in the UK (mostly churches), then typical stylings visible for late 18th century (e.g. Bath), then a gap to the late 19th century to early 20th (in both countries but with more Gothic in the UK and more Neo-Classical and Art Nouveau in Berlin), then another gap where little survives to today, then post-war (British housing estates and DDR soviet style Plattenbau); these are very different to Swiss rural styles, to the narrow buildings you can find in Amsterdam. The UK and France also still retain a lot of medieval castles in various states of repair and museum-ification.

      Bologna still has a lot of medieval structures around, including two leaning towers. Venice may be famous for the canals, but the famous ones are not the entire set, the ones I remember seeing went right up to the hotel I was in and functioned like roads, with a similar vibe to the roads of Athens (only without the footpaths at all because footpaths were a completely independent system), while the canals in Amsterdam were broad and felt more like the spaces dedicated to the Straßenbahn and U-Bahn in Berlin.

      Budapest felt like a decaying museum to itself, or a ruin in which people nevertheless still lived and worked.

      NYC deserves the name "urban jungle", it was like walking through canyons where the "mountains" (skyscrapers) were so distant and large as to defy not just the instant parallax between my eyes, but also the time-delayed parallax one normally gets from walking towards or away from a thing.

      Cyprus (caveat: I've only been to Larnaca) was a mix of British road furniture, medieval castle, and a Church that pre-dates England (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Lazarus%2C_Lar...), with the half-finished look to many properties where the rebar was still poking out of the uppermost surface of enough buildings to notice and visible water tanks on most of them (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9108686,33.6190677,3a,15y,41...)

      Nairobi mixed a British 50s-60s Brutalist core (presumably because of who was in charge in the 50s-early 60s) with main streets that were variously poorly repaired and unpaved, and minor streets that varied from "this could be any middle class residential area in Europe" to "this has been accidentally cobbled by people treading plastic bottles into the soil as they pass"; there is another easily recognisable style here, best shown rather than described, this kind of wall lack-of-surface-finishing: https://www.google.com/maps/@-1.2844081,36.9005201,3a,30y,35...

  • eru 2 days ago

    Singapore does actually look like the renders. By and large.

    • JimDabell a day ago

      I was watching Dark Matter (the Apple series, not the older one; mild spoiler follows), and I laughed when they arrived at the futuristic utopia universe because it just looked like Singapore.

    • csomar a day ago

      Most of Singapore looks like the Soviet Union: https://www.google.com/maps/@1.3756813,103.9459007,3a,90y,26...

      Sun/Light has a lot to do with it. The place linked looks fine/tolerable but put that in the northern of Europe/America and you'll looking at the edge of depression (at least for myself).

      • JimDabell 9 hours ago

        Funnily enough, I live a couple of minutes walk from this spot, I guess you are nearby? HDBs can look a bit samey, but that photo does a bit of a disservice to Singapore. There are also quite lovely HDBs as well:

        https://thehoneycombers.com/singapore/unique-hdb-blocks-desi...

        And of course the surrounding area there is pretty amazing, loads of green spaces and wildlife on your doorstep. A large part of this video was filmed just around the corner, for instance:

        https://vimeo.com/494315018

        They are currently building a new HDB estate right on the edge of a coastal park five minutes from that location. Even without the sunlight, it’s a pretty great place to live.

        • csomar 5 hours ago

          It is a good place to live. I was just comparing how climate can make a place okay/fine versus not okay/depressing. You mentioned greenery: I'm a bit up north (Malaysia) and it's plenty green here too. Though that's more due to the area climate than anything they are doing (i.e., Dubai can't match that no matter how hard they try).

      • HPsquared a day ago

        Bearing in mind that is literally a construction site, I think it looks pretty good.

      • eru a day ago

        Yes, that's how a lot of Singapore looks like. It's an HDB car park.

        But your picture of the Soviet Union is perhaps a bit too rosy.

        I'm not sure why you'd be depressed? It's a picture of a construction site in a car park. Sure, I'd love having the car infrastructure being less front and centre, too. But otherwise it's fine.

        • csomar 12 hours ago

          > I'm not sure why you'd be depressed?

          I was saying I'd be depressed or it would be depressing, in Singapore. What I was saying is that if you match that place with a grey sky, in cold climate with slow rain, that will be the definition of depression (at least for me).

  • b3orn 2 days ago

    Especially in autumn and winter.

Nextgrid a day ago

> someone finally made Poland-filter

The UK is feeling left out and would like a word.

  • Tade0 a day ago

    The British invented Brutalism, the eastern block perfected it.

    • Sharlin a day ago

      Huh, TIL that the concept of brutalist architecture doesn’t come directly from French béton brut but was associated with it only after the term was coined.

xyzal a day ago

There should be a effect intensity slider. East Germany <-> Poland <-> Russia

abraxas 2 days ago

Before the dystopian black and gray fad arrived most buildings that went up were sort of OK. And I didn't mind the pastel paint on commie blocks either. But a decade ago someone decided that gray cuboids with asymmetric windows were an improvement...

Even so, I think North American cities are on average uglier than most Polish ones. Overall we're not doing so bad but I want the Slavic city memes to continue lest we get Prague or Amsterdam level tourist invasion.

wffurr a day ago

It really nails the Boston / MIT campus in November vibe.

pfannkuchen a day ago

What would happen if you run it on a spacecraft? Blank image comes back?