Comment by cebert

Comment by cebert 2 days ago

22 replies

I own a Model Y with hardware version 4. FSD prevented my from getting in an accident with a drunk driver. It reacted much faster to the situation than I could have. Ever since, I’m sold that in a lot of circumstances, machines can drive better than humans.

throw20251220 2 days ago

So does AEB in any modern car.

  • fred_is_fred 2 days ago

    Tesla fans have not realized that every car made since 2021ish can do this.

    • cucumber3732842 17 hours ago

      About once a month my car makes me look like a piece of shit because the AEB gets confused by lane changes when you maintain speed coming up to slow traffic in order to wait for a good spot to move over. As you go to move over it'll flip out and brake as you slide left and no amount of gas pedal will override it so you wind up moving over a lane only to brake check that lane. Thankfully it doesn't do a full stop, just brakes for long enough to realize there's nothing there.

      0/10. Someone is gonna cause a multi-car pile up with this.

      I'm sure it would work great to prevent me from texting my way into the back of stopped traffic though.

    • dzhiurgis 2 days ago

      AEB has been around since ages. Even my 2010 Mazda had it. It's nowhere near Tesla's capabilities tho. Not sure what are you trying to achieve with such dunks?

    • mullingitover 2 days ago

      My 2016 Honda Civic has automatic braking (and it has lanekeep assist, so it's technologically superior to a 2026 Tesla).

dangus 2 days ago

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  • direwolf20 2 days ago

    Money is apolitical. Politics is not allowed on HN.

    • JumpCrisscross 2 days ago

      > Politics is not allowed on HN

      Nothing in the guidelines says this. What it does require is "thoughtful and substantive" comments, particularly "as a topic gets more divisive."

  • kolbe 2 days ago

    Hacker News likes to keep conversations focused on the topic at hand. I doubt anyone here thinks politics are irrelevant. We just understand basic courtesy. If your goal is indeed to influence change, you do a massive disservice to the cause by acting immature and injecting your politics into other conversations.

  • renewiltord 2 days ago

    Well, as everyone points out: Musk uses Tesla’s stock to fund things and Tesla’s stock is decoupled from fundamentals like revenue so that means that buying his car is decoupled from funding things. Practically a syllogism.

  • parineum 2 days ago

    > mass human displacement campaign (a.k.a. Genocide)

    genocide /jĕn′ə-sīd″/ noun

        The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.
    • dangus 2 days ago

      Great, I’m glad your dictionary is happy about deporting 5 year olds.

      “Uhm aktually it’s not a genocide it’s just a fascist police state”

      Multiple humanitarian organizations define mass displacement as genocide and/or ethnic cleansing.

      The holocaust literally started with mass deportations/detentions. Then the nazis figured out that it was easier to kill detainees.

      • mhb 2 days ago

        If you have some point to make about deporting 5 years olds or whatever, don't you think it would be more persuasive without provoking a tangential discussion about your idiosyncratic definition of genocide regardless of whatever organizations agree with you?

      • parineum 2 days ago

        > Multiple humanitarian organizations define mass displacement as genocide and/or ethnic cleansing.

        You're mixing two things here to your advantage. Genocide is (or can be) ethnic cleansing but ethnic cleansing is not genocide. So your "and/or" does some work for you there and makes you correct. However, you said genocide not "genocide and/or ethnic cleansing". You've moved the goalposts.

        It'd be odd to redefine any word that ends in '-cide' from actual killing.

        > The holocaust literally started with mass deportations/detentions.

        Which was ethnic cleansing.

        > Then the nazis figured out that it was easier to kill detainees.

        Which was the point which it became a genocide.

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