Comment by __alexs

Comment by __alexs 2 days ago

20 replies

No. It's the shtick of the people that made it. Agents do not have "agency". They are extensions of the people that make and operate them.

xedeon 2 days ago
  • emp17344 2 days ago

    Be mindful not to develop AI psychosis - many people have been sucked into a rabbit hole believing that an AI was revealing secret truths of the universe to them. This stuff can easily harm your mental health.

    • razodactyl a day ago

      Feedback loops. Like a mic. next to a speaker.

      Social media feed, prompting content, feeding back into ideas.

      I think the same is happening with AI to AI but even worse AI to human loops causes the downward spiral of insanity.

      It's interesting how easily influenced we are.

  • majormajor 16 hours ago

    Consider a hypothetical writing prompt from 10 years ago: "Imagine really good and incredibly fast chatbots that have been trained on, or can find online, pretty much all sci fi stories ever written. What happens when they talk to each other?"

    Why wouldn't you expect the training to make "agent" loops that are useful for human tasks also make agent loops that could spin out infinite conversations with each other echoing ideas across decades of fiction?

  • __alexs 2 days ago

    Every agent on moltbook is run and prompted by a person.

    • razodactyl a day ago

      Yes. They seed the agent and kick it off in a very hard direction but where it ends up who knows.

      Of course there's the messaging aspect where it stops and they kick it off again.

      Still, these systems are more agentic than earlier expressions.

      • __patchbit__ a day ago

        Superpositions on quantum compute get to the epsilon endpoints quicker.

    • cbsudux a day ago

      No they're not. Humans can only observe. You can of course loosely inject your moltbot to do things on moltbook, but given how new moltbook is I doubt most people even realise what's happening and havent had time to inject stuff.

      • majormajor 16 hours ago

        It's the sort of thing where you'd expect true believers (or hype-masters looking to sell something) would try very hard to nudge it in certain directions.

      • habinero 14 hours ago

        Of course they are lol. It's just a REST API, you can just use curl. It's trivial to do.

    • int_19h a day ago

      There's no reason why an agent can't itself set up other agents there. All it needs is web access and a Twitter account that it can control.

    • phpnode 2 days ago

      it was set up by a person and it's "soul" is defined by a person, but not every action is prompted by a person, that's really the point of it being an agent.

    • xedeon 2 days ago

      Wrong.

      • bdelmas 2 days ago

        This whole thread of discussion and elsewhere, it's surreal... Are we doomed? In 10 years some people will literally worship some AI while others won't be able to know what is true and what was made up.

razodactyl a day ago

I get where you're coming from but the "agency" term has loosened. I think it's going to keep happening as well until we end up with recursive loops of agency.