Comment by SetTheorist

Comment by SetTheorist 2 days ago

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You are explicitly saying that you feel more in common with Taliban or Tren De Aragua than with someone who wishes to exercise their Constitutionally protected right to peacefully protest against unlawful actions by agents of the government?

Also, I am confused why you think that allegedly spitting and/or kicking out lights is a justification for execution.

mothballed 2 days ago

I understand what they mean.

Taliban, the people at the top are acting in a calculated and rational manner. That is why the US overthrew the Taliban to be replaced by the Taliban. They're not morons, and they are not impulsive at least at a high level. They are cold and calculated and know how to use calculated violence and appeal to the populace. You may dislike this is the case but with Taliban I feel this is indisputable, despite numerous tactical blunders on their end.

Pretti looked more like a raging lunatic. He knew CBP/ICE were homicidal maniacs and the slightest thing will set them off. He knew that acting like that will be interpreted by them as a 'shot at the King.' His actions looked impulsive and ultimately threw his life away getting very little for what he traded. And he basically submitted his head for execution after letting himself be disarmed, and I'm left wondering -- what was the point?

No one wants to be like the guy swinging at tail lights and spitting like a toddler with a cosmetic accessory gun tucked in their waistband which they then surrendered and offered their head for execution -- and for what?

Malcom X and MLK both had their followings. People like Pretti, never will.

  • text0404 2 days ago

    The point is that you fight against injustice even in the face of state violence. Every movement that is a threat to existing power structures faces violence. Take a look at the labor movement in the US, the civil rights movement in the US, the anti-war movement in the US.

    > Malcom X and MLK both had their followings. People like Pretti, never will.

    The new movement is decentralized and doesn't rely on figureheads.

    Also, you should read the news today if you think Pretti's death was in vain: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=general%20strike&tbm=n...

    You've offered a lot of criticism - what do you think the solution is?

    • mothballed a day ago

      You dismiss the relevance of following others as irrelevant because it's all "decentralized".

      Yet damn me for not offering a "solution."

      You sir, are a hypocrite. If I'm damned for not offering you a solution, it can't simultaneously be true following my "solution" is irrelevant to third parties and everything waived away as "decentralized".

      Conversation ended for bad faith practice, heads I win, tails you lose scenario.

      • text0404 17 hours ago

        So instead of replying with ways that you think the movement could combat injustice, you've decided to make this personal? It's okay to say "I don't know," but you probably shouldn't pretend to speak with authority on a subject that you completely fold on when questioned beyond surface level.

        > bad faith

        Projection if I've ever seen it.

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