Comment by giancarlostoro

Comment by giancarlostoro 2 days ago

> This is all wonderful and all but what happens when these tools aren't available - you lose internet connection or the agent is misconfigured or you simply ran out of credits. How would someone support their business / software / livelihood?

This is why I suggest developers use the free time they gain back writing documentation for their software (preferably in your own words not just AI slop), reading official docs, sharpening your sword, learning design patterns more thoroughly. The more you know about the code / how to code, the more you can guide the model to pick a better route for a solution.

FitchApps 2 days ago

I'm seeing things that are seriously alarming though. Claude can now write better documentation and document things 95% there (we're building a set of MCP tools and API end-points for a large enterprise..) - Claude is already either writing code or fixing bugs or suggesting fixes. We have a PM, who has access to both React and API projects, on our team who saw one of the services return 500; they used Claude to pinpoint the bug to exact database call and suggest a fix. So now, it's quite common for PMs to not only post bugs but also "suggested fixes" from the agents. In a not so distant future, developers here will be simply redundant since PM can just use Claude to code and support the entire app. Right now, they still rely on us for support and deployments but that could go away too.

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giancarlostoro a day ago

Sure Claude can write better docs but if you dont write the documentation yourself you wont fully know the codebase. I would argue write docs and then have Claude critique it. Then adjust.

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Bnjoroge 2 days ago

PMs could have chosen to do this before, though. Sure, LLMs obviously empower them but the main reason you have developers is to have someone to be accountable to, and they thus have to be extra careful and thoughtful about the code they write. The PMs could come up with adhoc fixes but unless they're also willing to be on the hook for the code, then it's not terribly useful organizationally imo

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beepbooptheory 2 days ago

This doesn't really seem to be the point? Op is being prescriptive, talking about what we should do, not about what could be done.
Apply to anything else: you could eat out at restaurants every night, and it would do a great job in feeding you! Think of all the productivity you would gain relying on agential chefs. With restaurants even I can eat like a French chef, they have truly democratized food. And they do a perfect job these days executing dishes, only some mistakes.

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- giancarlostoro 2 days ago
  
  I do love restaurants you're really reading right through me haha
  
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- exe34 2 days ago
  
  these chefs will only pour bleach in your food once in a while!
  
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3371 2 days ago

Well, if they make the decision to accept the suggestion and it's wrong, that's on them. But if you do, that's on you. LLM? How can your boss blame the LLM? Like yelling at it?

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- giancarlostoro 2 days ago
  
  This is the key factor. Sure you can ask an LLM to take the place of a professional medical doctor, but that's on you if you wind up making yourself worse because you didn't seek a professional. That PM would be fired if the code did not work out.
  
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