Comment by threethirtytwo

Comment by threethirtytwo 2 days ago

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Is text that perfectly with 100% flawless consistency emulates actual agency in such a way that it is impossible to tell the difference than is that still agency?

Technically no, but we wouldn't be able to know otherwise. That gap is closing.

adastra22 2 days ago

> Technically no

There's no technical basis for stating that.

  • threethirtytwo 2 days ago

    Text that imitates agency 100 percent perfectly is technically by the word itself an imitation and thus technically not agentic.

    • adastra22 2 days ago

      No there is a logical errror in there. You are implicitly asserting that the trained thing is an imitation, whereas it is only the output that is being imitated.

      A flip way of saying it is that we are evolving a process that exhibits the signs of what we call thinking. Why should we not say it is actually thinking?

      How certain are you that in your brain there isn’t a process very similar?

      • threethirtytwo a day ago

        I never asserted it is an imitation.

        I am simply asking a question. If anything I am only asserting the possibility that it is an imitation. I am more saying that there is no method to tell the difference on which possibility is true. Is it an imitation or is it not? The argument is ultimately pointless because you cannot prove it either way.

        The only logical error is your assumptions and misinterpretation of what I said and meant.

teekert 2 days ago

Between the Chinese room and “real” agency?