Comment by gambiting

Comment by gambiting 3 days ago

>>Everything since 2018 that I have played has been relatively easy to guess the plot line

Be honest- you guessed the plot of Claire Obscure before you got to Act 3? Or the plot of Death Stranding 1 & 2 before you finished them?

What kind of games have you played since 2018? Because yeah, there is a lot of predictable cookie cutter AAA games out there, sure. But each year there are games which are surprising in their storytelling, same as somehow there are still new and surprising films despite film being much older than gaming. Not to mention books.

YurgenJurgensen 2 days ago

Anyone who didn’t guess the ‘plot twists’ of Clair Obscur at least 10 hours in advance wasn’t paying enough attention to even remember how to spell the title of the game. It’s structurally extremely standard if you’ve played Dark Souls and more than a couple of 90s JRPGs, and its foreshadowing is about as subtle as being hit in the face with a stale baguette.

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gambiting 2 days ago

I didn't realize until Act 3 what the real story was, and to be honest I don't really understand how anyone could. But maybe I'm just not good enough to understand all these subtle themes :-P

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reactordev 3 days ago

Yup, town plagued by supernatural, everyone depressed, just another Ubisoft title they could have had but didn’t.

By Act 2 the story was already falling apart. The game just leaves you feeling depressed. I guess since you felt something that makes it GOTY.

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gambiting 3 days ago

>Yup, town plagued by supernatural, everyone depressed, just another Ubisoft title they could have had but didn’t.
Ok, so you haven't played it then. I mean just say so, instead of making things up?

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- reactordev 2 days ago
  
  You can’t make up The Paintress. Awful writing.
  
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  gambiting 2 days ago
  
  >>Yup, town plagued by supernatural, everyone depressed,
  But that's literally not what the game is, which is why I'm asking why are you making up the fact about playing it? It sounds like a quick judgement based on a trailer or watching a 30 minute analysis video on YouTube.
  What other games have awful writing according to you? Out of curiosity. Or is it just anything written after 2018?
  Maybe a better question is - what do you mean when you say "good" or "bad" writing in games?
  
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  reactordev 2 days ago
  
  I’m not making anything up. I don’t fabricate. I gave you my point of view and you refuse to accept it.
  It’s just not a good game.
  You can have a good game and a shit story (see Gears of War, Halo). You can have a good game and an epic story (see Witcher 3, Guild Wars 2, Red Dead Redemptions). You can even have a bad game with a good story (L.A. Noire, Batman Arkham series).
  What makes a game good: Are the controls intuitive? Is the world believable? Interactivity? Grounded in realism but doesn’t need to be. If there’s a story, does the story unfold or am I just playing the “living action” version of the book? If it unfolds, does it do so linearly from level to level or does it do it naturally, filling in gaps of a bigger picture?
  There’s nuance in each. I generally agree with consensus on what’s good vs bad but where I differ is in the storytelling. As a long time DM, it pains me to walk through a story from chapter 1 till end in a linear fashion. This is why I dislike Diablo style games even though it’s super fun and we all love a loot piñata. It’s just such a shitty story and so linear. “Stay a while and listen…” “I’ve heard you say this 1000x grandpa!”
  
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12_throw_away 3 days ago

Ok, this was a pretty well-done troll, you totally had me until this.

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- reactordev 2 days ago
  
  No troll, I paid full price. Expedition 33 wasn’t well written.
  
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shakna 3 days ago

> Or the plot of Death Stranding 1 & 2 before you finished them?

... Yes? I mean, the games are not that subtle. Lore dump, sly smile, more game, repeat.

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