Comment by Muromec

Comment by Muromec 3 days ago

6 replies

>A database does not have a mind, and it is not a person. If it could have culpa, then you'd be liable for assault, perhaps murder, if you took it apart.

We as a society, for our own convenience can choose to believe that LLM does have a mind and can understand results of it's actions. The second part doesn't really follow. Can you even hurt LLM in a way that is equivalent to murdering a person? Evicting it off my computer isn't necessarily a crime.

It would be good news if the answer was yes, because then we just need to find a convertor of camel amounts to dollar amounts and we are all good.

Can LLM perceive time in a way that allows imposing an equivalent of jail time? Is the LLM I'm running on my computer the same personality as the one running on yours and should I also shut down mine when yours acted up? Do we even need the punishment aspect of it and not just rehabilitation, repentance and retraining?

Wobbles42 3 days ago

The only hallucination here is the idea that giant equation is a mind.

  • Muromec 3 days ago

    It's only a hallucination if you are the only one seeing it. Otherwise the line between that, a social construct and a religious belief is a bit blurry.

cess11 3 days ago

This type of religious gobbledygook is not a sound foundation for regulating state violence.

  • Muromec 3 days ago

    Does it matter if it's sound? Religious nonsense is in fact a foundation or at least an excuse for state violence most of the time.

    • cess11 2 days ago

      Rape is common, doesn't make it acceptable to me.

      • Muromec 2 days ago

        If only we could make it illegal using state sanctioned violence, than it would not be so common anymore.