Comment by Aurornis

Comment by Aurornis 3 days ago

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> I doubt judgement is heavily impaired at 0.05 BAC. That is at or below the legal limit to drive a car.

0.05% BAC will result in a DUI in many countries. Regardless, any impairment on a job where you're doing things guaranteed to summon the cops is a very bad idea.

BAC also declines linearly over time. I doubt (hope?) they weren't drinking on the job, but a 0.05% BAC measured after their arrest means their BAC would have been higher when they started breaking into the building earlier in the night.

tptacek 3 days ago

Only Utah has a 0.05 standard. (I think drinking before a nighttime physical pentest is a bad idea).

  • bawolff 3 days ago

    Is USA the outliner here? In (most of) canada 0.05 will get your license suspended (but you dont go to jail unless its 0.08).

    Australia, scotland and france are also 0.05.

    There are quite a few countries where the limit is less than that.

    • tptacek 3 days ago

      Maybe? Virtually everywhere in the US is 0.08. I don't think it's a good idea for physical pentesters to drink anything before a gig, for whatever that's worth, so hopefully we're just shooting the shit about different countries rules.

      • tomnipotent 3 days ago

        The "legal limit" is terribly misunderstood, but 0.08% is just legal threshold where the state doesn't need to prove impairment and the offense is upgraded to an automatic criminal DUI. A driver in an accident with a BAC of 0.03% could still be charged with a DUI if impairment can be proven but most prosecutors' offices have more important things to work on.

  • shawn_w 3 days ago

    Washington might be moving to 0.05 too. (A bill just narrowly passed the state Senate; still has to clear the state house)