Comment by bottlepalm

Comment by bottlepalm 3 days ago

6 replies

Give me a break. Tesla has 4 different, 4 person cars. It's redundant. In manufacturing and business, reducing variability is everything. Engineering and supply chain has now been freed from two entire SKUs. That's massive. In a self driving world, they don't really the Model 3 either. The best part is no part - well getting rid of two entire vehicles worth of parts that contributed very little to the bottom line is massive.

It's amazing after 20 years of the same MO, people still don't understand how Tesla/SpaceX operate and succeed. It's like deleting millions of lines of code from a code base. It improves not just performance of the organization, but maintenance as well. The S/X were outsized tech debt on every facet of the business and now they're gone. 100% the right move and very few people understand it.

lbreakjai 3 days ago

There's clearly no difference whatsoever between a Toyota Aygo and a Hilux, as they both seat exactly four people. That's why most car brands only have a single model.

vel0city 3 days ago

Model X wasn't a 4-person car. It was designed to be a 6-7 seater, far bigger than the Model Y. The Model Y's optional third row is practically useless.

Its like arguing the Honda CR-V is the same kind of vehicle as the Honda Odyssey.

The real question is why continue having the Model Y and the Model 3, when those are so incredibly close in dimensions. The 3 is only 2" smaller than the Y in length. Just kill the 3 and make a cheaper trim level of the Y. $10k more to have a 7" higher roof and more features in the base model.

AlexandrB 3 days ago

How many 4-person vehicles does Toyota make again? What about BYD? I think it's way more than 4.

EthanHeilman 3 days ago

> Tesla has 4 different, 4 person cars. It's redundant.

You are spot on, it makes sense to have the Model 3 (economy sedan) and Model y (upmarket crossover SUV).

My question here is why did Tesla have four 4-person cars in the first place? If you wanted to streamline engineering and supply-chain why have Cybercabs instead of using the model 3 or model y as the base? Why split the company between Optimus and making cars?

Cybertrunk does make sense, it is a technology demonstrator and test article filled with all the new ideas and tech they are going to build into the next generation. They get data on people using it by selling it to them.

What you say is a sound strategy for Telsa to peruse, but they don't seem to be perusing it.

throw310822 3 days ago

> Tesla has 4 different, 4 person cars. It's redundant.

You must be a topologist.

cosmicgadget 3 days ago

It's weird that you think people don't understand the concept of simplification, especially here. And that if someone says "that's an odd move" it must be because they can't grasp the idea of redundancy (between vehicles priced differently by a factor of two).