Comment by miyuru

Comment by miyuru 3 days ago

12 replies

Most low-end providers will just keep using old hardware for longer.

IPv4 shortages didn’t kill it, and I don’t think this will either.

neelc 3 days ago

For providers like us, we have to lease IPv4. We came long after IPv4 was already depleted. IPv4 prices did go down. Despite that, the $15/year 128MB BuyVM plan is long-gone.

But for a new provider like us, we'd have to spend more than an established player like BuyVM or RackNerd who bought most of their servers pre-AI-boom.

  • direwolf20 3 days ago

    Have you tried doing ipv6-only plans?

    • Gigachad 3 days ago

      Vultr has one that's $2.5/month v6 only. Probably good if you just need something tiny to run some automation.

      • aitchnyu 2 days ago

        What are the issues faced by v6-only hosts and are there countries where it is a non-issue?

    • alecco a day ago

      Yeah, most services will be behind a CDN or firewall service, anyway.

    • g-mork 2 days ago

      or just offer v4 HTTPS LB bundled. Never understood why more places didn't do this.

      • friendzis 2 days ago

        Responsibility and controls. If the host/dc assigns a dedicated addresses the contract can be essentially "the customer assumes all liability behind traffic". With NAT/LB you need at the very least quite robust, evidence-grade monitoring mechanisms tagging all traffic and keeping historical data. In practice, some for of active abuse prevention is required, otherwise huge chunk of your address space is going to effectively linger in blacklist limbo.

        That is, if being unreachable below "presentation layer" is acceptable in the first place, but I guess the question kind of presupposes this.

1970-01-01 3 days ago

Exactly this. The old hardware from a year ago is fine as the typical use-case for a VPS didn't change.