Comment by fishtacos
I recently reset a Dell laptop for a friend. Dual core, 8gb RAM, HDD (not SSD), can run Windows 11, so I ran the built-in recovery feature and it took almost 2 days to just get Windows 10 updated.
When I saw it was still absolutely crap and unusable, I considered putting Linux on it, but didn't want to end up as support, so...
Long story short, a clean install of Windws 11 was functional. Updates took forever and a day. The computer itself takes about 6-8 minutes to become usable on boot, but once everything is cached into RAM, it's usable.
More usable initially than my work issued Dell (when I actually worked at Dell) that within a week I cloned and installed an SSD on, probably breaking all kinds of terminable policies. So,story time:
I did some silly things in those 4 years there to bypass bureaucracy: Cloned my entire laptop into a VM to have a secondary method of accessing work stuff. Created an entire test lab using unauthorized disk cloning into VMs for remote access. Disabled auto updates by management software so PCs wouldn't be kicked off the network. Probably set off all kinds of alarms. Would occasionally reenable to keep VM authorized.
The kicker is that I was recognized company-wide for creating something useful out of basically nothing but my time and curiosity. Got a bonus for it, on top of it.
To your point, my 96GB DDR5 24-core desktop-replacement "gaming" laptop, when used regularly, with a decent amount of startup apps, still struggles to be responsive on boot. There is a lot of bloat I don't want to get rid of because they provide updates and performance features. At startup, I'm usually at 14 GB RAM used, which is nuts. Not sure how to fix this trend.
> I'm usually at 14 GB RAM used, which is nuts. Not sure how to fix this trend.
I know this isn't an option for many, but I think swapping to linux might be the right first step. Linux would be fast as lightning on a computer like that.