Comment by usaphp

Comment by usaphp 3 days ago

7 replies

> And they even suck at making cars these days

Aren’t model Y and model 3 considered the best cars in their class by most motor journalists?

Arainach 3 days ago

No, not by a long shot, unless you define "class" so tightly as to only include those vehicles and no competitors.

  • apublicfrog 3 days ago

    What would you define as better? I rent various EVs regularly, and I'm still yet to find something that beats it on performance, range and price. That's all before comfort and features, which again most seem to lack. There are a couple pretty close to Tesla, but nothing that clearly beats it that I've driven.

    • Arainach 3 days ago

      In the US market, the Hyundai Ioniq 6 has better build quality, identical range in real world conditions, a ton of comfort, and no threat that their CEO will go off his meds and take away your driving assist features unless you pay a ~~ransom~~ subscription fee.

      Internationally, BYD destroys it.

    • theshrike79 3 days ago

      As a car? Anything. Hyundai Ioniq 5 for example.

      As a computer? Not many to be honest. Dog Mode is an afternoon project for a junior programmer and still _ZERO_ car manufacturers have copied it.

      • cogman10 3 days ago

        Tesla's greatest strength is/was that they did almost everything inhouse. The reason all the other manufacturers struggle to do basic things like dog mode is because they are almost all relying on the supply chain for everything. No infotainment/HVAC supplier has a dog mode so it doesn't exist.

        The obvious downside to that is that when Tesla cuts back on R&D, it becomes painfully obvious to the car owners. I'm not expecting anything like dog mode to show up ever again.

bmitc 3 days ago

No. They are consistently rated low, particularly in safety and reliability.