Comment by AreShoesFeet000

The population numbers of other countries are only relevant when serving an imperial or colonial enterprise. In a way this article reads somewhat like a mob boss complaining that their accountant is skimming off the top.

If I were a rightful leader of all Nigeria I would make sure those numbers would never be accessible for westerners as it’s the fist thing you need to know when you decide to wage war of any kind against some people.

renewiltord 3 days ago

Yeah, everyone thinks that “if I hide my stuff others won’t know my secret”. One innovation of the Western world is that public knowledge itself is valuable to the entire society. Why would they publish papers on transformers and so on? Are they fools? They’re giving away their secrets!

Why do they do these things? Because that is how they are as a society and this world currently rewards that more than it does the secret lab.

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ReptileMan 3 days ago

Do you really think the outcome of western militaries vs nigeria will be different if Nigeria has a million or a billion people?

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AreShoesFeet000 3 days ago

How else are you going to estimate the number of soldiers to send, the overall cost, and the projected return from labor exploitation? How do you think wars are waged and what do you think motivates them?

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- anonymous908213 3 days ago
  
  Do you think that the British had an accurate census of the populations of all the places they were conquering on their attempt at world conquest in the 1600s-1800s?
  
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  AreShoesFeet000 3 days ago
  
  Do you think they have an accurate census now? Isn’t this the very subject the author is trying to outline?
  
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  nephihaha 3 days ago
  
  The British state did not do most of the conquering, companies did and the government moved in later. India was originally taken by the East India Company.
  
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  rrr_oh_man 3 days ago
  
  Nope, and it didn't matter.
  You need to know military, not population size (how quickly can a militia be raised, how long can it be sustained, how well they are armed, who can be persuaded to defect, etc.). This is related to population size, but not linearly.
  Population counts get only interesting for military and tax potential during administration of a territory.
  GP's point is valid, though, imho.
  
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  AreShoesFeet000 3 days ago
  
  In your honest opinion, is current colonialism in /that/ country that is doing genocide more or less effective than South African apartheid?
  
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- OtherShrezzing 3 days ago
  
  >The population numbers of other countries are only relevant when serving an imperial or colonial enterprise.
  Is this statement not in direct contention with this statement:
  >If I were a rightful leader of all Nigeria I would make sure those numbers would never be accessible for westerners as it’s the fist thing you need to know when you decide to wage war of any kind against some people.
  Surely the leader of the colonisation target country would like to know the population of the coloniser, so that they can get an understanding of how many soldiers to keep in the defence force?
  
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- pjc50 3 days ago
  
  Satellite photos?
  You can easily get an estimate of the number of buildings and especially vehicles, which tell you two important things. Not to mention that as a matter of course the first thing to do is photograph everything that looks like a piece of military equipment, which has been a purpose of satellite photography from the beginning.
  Various kinds of countries get paranoid about letting people have maps or accurate geographic data. This makes very little difference militarily but causes real inconvenience for the locals.
  Besides, nobody wages wars for labour exploitation any more. It's all about what's under the ground.
  
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  torginus 3 days ago
  
  Yeah, spy sat tech today is likely good enough to track every single person that steps outside in the FoV of the sat in real time.
  
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  ben_w a day ago
  
  I doubt it's "real time" even now.
  That said, my actual experience of processing earth observation satellite images was with scientific data, not spy sats, and in any case it was just over 20 years ago and may be out of date.
  What I was working with, any given satellite image capture was a line rather than a rectangle, basically a rolling shutter effect but on a planetary scale and taking ~90 minutes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_broom_scanner
  
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- ReptileMan 3 days ago
  
  If I am to start violent colonial project today I will care for resources not people. And depopulating an area is fixed cost.
  Anyway with underdeveloped countries - you only need to bribe couple of people and you effectively run the country. Which once again is fixed cost.
  
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- nsjdkdkdk 3 days ago
  
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