Comment by joshjob42

Comment by joshjob42 3 days ago

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Most wouldn't because it's expensive. But at scale automated vehicles should be dramatically less expensive, in the range of 50-60¢/mi conservatively, and at that level it is going to be quite compelling to a lot of people since it's a private vehicle (no taxi driver) and it's reasonably affordable, a 1 seat ride, etc.

It's possible they'll be even cheaper but that range is the cost according to the IRS of operating a typical vehicle all in, and that seems like a reasonable guess of the cost of an autonomous electric vehicle with far lower probability of crash than a human (all the savings basically going to profit margin).

At ~60¢/mi, there'd be a lot of people who would save money on balance using autonomous taxis to get everywhere vs owning a private vehicle (10k mi/yr would cost only ~$6k/yr, a pretty low cost of ownership/use for a private vehicle).

Deklomalo 3 days ago

I just calculated it for 40 cents per mi and just the basic commute to my company would cost already 40 euros.

But I calculated traveling 2 times a week, of course at the commute time everyone else commutes and public transport costs 50 Euros per month.

My company car though costs 200 Euros + 100 Euros energy.

Im pretty sure cybertaxi can't and will not provide 40 cents / mi in high demand times, for middle class paying more mone for the convinince of having your own car is still cheap and if i need to do anything further away like any trip, it will be expensive again.

And all of these cybertaxis have to live somewere.

The math doesn't make sense already.

Tiktaalik 3 days ago

The problem is that the automobile based transportation system doesn't scale because the road dimensions are fixed.

So even if prices plunge, thus encouraging people to take more self driving cabs vs other things because of the fixed road size you immediately induce severe traffic, which discourages people and sets a ceiling on adoption as people pick more efficient alternatives.