Comment by jopsen

Comment by jopsen 4 days ago

8 replies

> The stock is the product.

Musk reeks of scam. But for a stock pump and dumb scheme there sure are a lot of teslas on the road.

tw04 3 days ago

Tesla sold 1.7M cars in 2024. Toyota sold 11.1M cars in 2024.

Tesla’s current market cap is $1.43T. Toyota’s current market cap is $354B.

There really aren’t that many teslas on the road, and their sales are declining.

  • wasfgwp 3 days ago

    This kind of maybe made sense for a while their revenue was growing at a very fast pace but now that its stagnant/falling they are no different to any other car company.

    • burningChrome 3 days ago

      I wonder if this coincides with Musk getting into politics? Never a good choice to alienate half your customer base. Michael Jordan famously said he never got into politics because "Republicans buy sneakers, too."

  • tonyhart7 3 days ago

    Tesla stock isn't valued as a car company

    • ben_w 3 days ago

      Which is exactly the problem.

      The stock is priced on expectations of how many humanoid robots they might sell over the next decade.

      Those expectations in turn treat humanoid robotics as if Tesla is the only game in town, when Tesla's Optimus is not yet available for purchase and other companies already ship.

      Then someone brings up the value of Tesla's AI to those robots, and here's my response to that to save re-writing it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46799603

      • ulfw 3 days ago

        "Robots"

        A product no one knows if there is a real demand for promised to be made by a company that has no core competency in robotics

        But hey let's just value this BS in the trillions because why not. Sam Altman's ChatGPT is not far behind