Comment by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF

> Ah, so organised or criminal but not both?

No, this misses their point. They are organized and some within the organization commit crimes, that does not mean the crime is organized. Hence asking about whether you consider ICE to be such an "organized crime" group because they can be described as (1) an organization (2) some members of which have committed crimes.

> If you don’t believe the criminal activity is organised, you can find the PDFs distributed in the Signal groups which contain instructions on violating the law.

What PDFs can be found and what criminal activity do they refer to?

nailer 3 days ago

Tactics PDF from one of the vigilante groups: https://x.com/painquirer/status/2015473753568747638?s=46

Comment above mentions laws.

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lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3 days ago

> Tactics PDF from one of the vigilante groups
That's not a PDF file from a Signal group, it's a video in a tweet. Do you have an actual PDF and can you point to where that PDF instructs people to commit crimes?
> Comment above mentions laws.
Yes, and a list of laws is a non sequitur. I was asking for evidence of your claims, which you've yet to provide. Does it even exist? Perhaps. Does it contain instructions to, er, bite off fingers? Doubtful.
Edit:
Reading the table of contents from the file depicted in that video, nothing jumps out as something which might contain instructions for committing a crime. There is no such PDF being distributed in 1000-member Signal groups which instructs its readers to commit crimes.

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- nailer 3 days ago
  
  > > Tactics PDF from one of the vigilante groups
  > That's not a PDF file from a Signal group, it's a video in a tweet.
  Of a PDF file from a Signal group encouraging people to violate 18 U.S.C. § 111 which makes it illegal to forcibly resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers.
  Maybe finish this conversation on your own. I’m out.
  
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  lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3 days ago
  
  > encouraging people to violate 18 U.S.C. § 111
  Sure, whatever, yeah, it's a PDF file from the Signal group. It doesn't do this, regardless.
  
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