Comment by paulirish

Comment by paulirish 4 days ago

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This was not spoofed at the ADS-B layer. It was just spoofed to adsb exchange. (While typically a feeder contributes to multiple sites, this one didn't.) eg:

- https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zo...

- https://adsb.lol/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zoom=14...

Relevant discussion on r/adsb: https://www.reddit.com/r/ADSB/comments/1qp3q9n/interesting/ where they note it's also absent on FR24, airplanes.live, and theairtraffic.com.

The adsb-x feeder map: https://map.adsbexchange.com/mlat-map/ They probably won't have a hard time identifying who contributed that data.

ryandrake 4 days ago

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.

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  • PunchyHamster 3 days ago

    There is no security within ADS-B. All you need is directional antenna pointing at receiver (if you just want to fuck with website, not cause mass panic in the nearest airport tower), there is no encryption or other form of authentication in the messages.

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    • ryandrake 3 days ago

      The security in question is the ADS-B exchange's web site's security, not the security of the ADS-B system. It's unlikely this vandal even has an antenna.

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  • antonvs 4 days ago

    > It's juvenile

    Juvenile times call for juvenile measures. In case you haven’t noticed, the US is being run by a bunch of arrested development high school bullies. Juvenile is one of the only languages they understand.

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    • account42 3 days ago

      If anything it juvenile it's "the other guy/team/party did it first".

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    • morpheuskafka 3 days ago

      And is Vance or Trump watching Flightradar24 in their free time? And if they did, would they even get mad at this and not find it funny? And if they did get mad at it, would they do anything at all? If they did something, would it be anything desirable or just trying to retaliate at whoever drew this?

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      • expedition32 3 days ago

        Trump is a narcist and it is known that he spends too much time on social media- and golf.

        Vance however is the real deal. May god/science help us all if Trump ever has his long overdue stroke.

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    • zombot 4 days ago

      +N. If I could, I would give you multiple upvotes.

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consumer451 4 days ago

I had also posted this story earlier, then deleted it once I learned that. However, I did find this interesting doc about real ADS-B spoofing, which does not appear to be very easy:

https://www.icao.int/sites/default/files/APAC/Meetings/2025/...

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  • PunchyHamster 3 days ago

    That just says "you need to go outside, and own an SDR". It's very easy, there is no encryption nor authentication in the system

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    • consumer451 3 days ago

      Man, I wrote that comment at the end of a 14hr work day. The crazy thing is that I had seen that SDR slide when I first looked at this. Hours later, when I posted the comment, I reviewed it again and completely hallucinated the SDR slide away.

      I need to check all the work I did towards the end of yesterday. Valuable lesson. Thanks.

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