Comment by spacechild1

Comment by spacechild1 4 days ago

> What would you do in this situation?

Follow the protocol. If you lose your nerves because of people blowing a whistle, you're in the wrong job.

> Alex seemed to put hands on an officer

Where do you see that? All I see is that he raised his left hand in a protective manner, likely to keep the agent at a distance and protect himself from the pepper spray. After that gesture he turns away from the agent to help the woman on the ground. That's when they grapple him from behind and wrestle him to the ground. At no point did Alex behave in a threatening way or physically attack an agent. The DHS report does not mention any threating behavior either.

kreetx 4 days ago

Clearly you're not on the wrong job. Find me some info materials on how cops need to be resistant to either mental or physical violence.

I'm sure we'll get a longer investigation into this matter. But it just doesn't seem like a pre-planned killing because they could get away with it, but a tragic sequence of events that you so much wish to bend your way.

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spacechild1 3 days ago

I'm not claiming that this was a pre-planned killing. But it was more than just a tragic sequence of events because the agents were very much at fault here. They behaved aggressively and obviously did not know how to properly deal with an ordinary protestor (who clearly was no threat to the agents at any point).

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- kreetx 3 days ago
  
  This is the ordinary protestor a little over a week before the event https://youtu.be/r0L9JUjcwo0?t=597.
  Alex had a gun with him. If he wanted to appear non-threatening he simply shouldn't have brought it to the event.
  I do maintain that this was an unfortunate sequence of events, but I think as this is investigated further, the guilt found on the officers will be small to none.
  
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  spacechild1 3 days ago
  
  > This is the ordinary protestor a little over a week before the event
  Wow, he kicked an ICE agent's car. The agents must have felt extremely threatened as they didn't even bother to arrest him...
  How is this relevant to the shooting again?
  > If he wanted to appear non-threatening he simply shouldn't have brought it to the event.
  Carrying a gun in a state that allows conceiled carrying cannot be considered a thread in itself. Alex did not behave in a threatening way at any point during that whole situation.
  
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  kreetx 2 days ago
  
  Say officers report that Alex was aggressive on the day he died but there is no video material. The events from a week ago support those statements, as clearly Alex is a man that is quite worked up and capable of physical aggression.
  
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