Comment by mcswell

Comment by mcswell 4 days ago

8 replies

I switched from Windows (11) to Linux (Xubuntu) back in November, mostly because of all the AI stuff I didn't trust. While Linux is working ok for me, I can see why people complain about its not being user-friendly, particularly if you're not a Real Programmer. I've had to go to forums too many times to figure out why this or that doesn't work. The latest is the fact that 'apt update' has stopped working today for Vivaldi--it worked ok yesterday, but I have not been able to get it working after spending an hour or more. (If you're interested, there's a thread here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/115133/public-key-is-not-ava....)

Also the fact that some apps update via 'apt', some by 'snap', and if you don't watch out some might update by 'flatpack'. While I think snap is updating automatically, it's hard to tell; some mornings I wake my PC up and only hours later do I discover that there's an update pop-up hidden behind other windows.

Oh, and every day I get a 'system problem' popup that asks if I want to submit a report, but won't tell me what the alleged problem was. I thought only Microsoft did that sort of thing?

I'm also not happy about the malware protection. Apparently the only anti-virus still available is ClamAV (and Kapersky, but for reasons I won't go into I don't trust that). But the gui for ClamAV has not been supported for several years, and running it from the command line is not so straightforward, never mind keeping it updated. (And don't tell me that Linux doesn't need antivirus protection. That's just whistling past the graveyard, particularly if you sometimes log in on public WiFi networks.)

I guess there are distros that are better about some of these things, but life is too short to try all of them, and hope that some bug (like the Vivaldi update thing) doesn't show up months later.

So yes, I'm using Linux, and I'm not planning to go back to Windows. But Linux sure could work better.

pamcake 4 days ago

Can't help you with AV but otherwise your issues and confusions are all Ubuntu and Canonical and nothing on there is representative of other Linux dists.

Ubuntu is highly opinionated. Great for some/many people but not the best fit for everyone or even an obvious recommendation for newcomers (anymore). For your consideraion: Mint is basically a project that repackages Ubuntu to adress those issues to make it accessible for people not onboard with the Ubuntu idiosyncracies and more casual users who just want their desktop. Should be an easy migration for you.

Your Vivaldi problem comes from that you trusted gpg key for their stable. release repo, and fail verifying package from their archive. repo. Change repo to stable (that's prob what you want) or get the key for archive.

Your Ubuntu experience as told is not representative of desktop Linux experienced outside of Ubuntu. "But Linux sure could work better" is a misleading conclusion to share when that's all you know.

  • mcswell 4 days ago

    Ok, I may try Mint.

    You're right that I mixed up the Vivaldi repo (maybe you are the one who pointed that out on the thread I linked). But even after fixing that, it's still not working---slightly different warning message, but still about gpg.

    • mcswell a day ago

      I've installed the Xfce Mint (you wren't the only one suggesting that). I don't have the same problems I had with Xubuntu, but I have different ones, like tearing on one of my two monitors. I initially had that with Xubuntu, but was able to find settings to fix it there-- IIRC by changing the refresh rate on that monitor. No luck so far on Xfce Mint. I've tried all seven of the Window Managers it offers, and both the configurations and most of the tweaks.

      Also can't find the red mouse cursor theme that I had on Ubuntu. (If I could remember the name, I might be able to find it, but the "after market" mouse cursor themes I've found are so much eye candy--I just want an ordinary set of cursors, but red. Yes, I could probably generate my own, but I shouldn't have to.)

      And when I reboot, the windows don't come up in the same place they were when I closed them. Some apps couldn't do that under Ubuntu either, but most could. I think it has to do with Wayland, but I'm not sure if it's even possible to go back to a purely X-windows system in Mint.

      Sigh...

mixmastamyk 4 days ago

I recommend Mint over Ubuntu, the snap issue does not exist there.

> And don't tell me that Linux doesn't need antivirus... you sometimes log in on public WiFi networks.

This is a misunderstanding of the threat model of Wifi. Stick to software from the signed repos and SSL. Avoid attachments, keep updated. I've never used antivirus with Linux, despite working on symantec antivirus back in the day.

  • mcswell a day ago

    I have moved to Mint, but see my post above in this thread.

fragmede 4 days ago

> particularly if you sometimes log in on public WiFi networks

If you're on Linux and have a firewall, so there are no listening ports, there is no threat from using public wifi. TLS encrypts your connection on ~all websites these days.

  • mcswell 4 days ago

    I'll just point out that while Ubuntu ships with a firewall, it's not enabled by default, and at least in Windows the firewall is enabled by default. I have since enabled it in Ubuntu.

fragmede 4 days ago

I've spent a long career getting good at Linux. Real good. But I'm only human. Over the decades, the number of how-tos, wiki pages, Linux distros, Linux kernel source, other programs documentation and source; all of that which I've ingested and used in practice and gotten good at, doesn't hold a candle to AI having been trained on every single last one of them. The solution to your apt/Vivaldi problem is easy: install Claude code, and paste in the error. Hit ctrl-o to gain insight on how it fixes it.

You used to be able to charge a decent hourly consulting rate to do some Linux, but because Claude code is so good at it, there's no market for that anymore.

(for one, your URI is wrong, resulting in apt looking for .../deb/dists/stable/dists/stable/Release )