Comment by ewuhic

Comment by ewuhic 4 days ago

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I am from Vienna, and this is completely false. Likewise, my friends from many countries, incl. Vietnam, also share the sentiment you describe as "American". Your point has no standing.

motbus3 4 days ago

Same, and I ain't in any of those locations.

The thing is that there will be less work, but that certainly is not looking like universal income. It is more like rich people will get rid of those who they don't need with some sort of "let's kill parasites" or "cutting weed" because the world is in danger of poor people destroying it. In certain ways, they are already trying to tell that to people so nobody notices that no single person should have a trillion or even a billion of money

  • tim333 3 days ago

    If you look at real world examples of machines replacing jobs like in the industrial revolution it didn't really go like that. The rich didn't monopolise everything because competition reduced the profits and the works moved on to other jobs like the ones we do today.

    The "let's kill parasites" stuff has arisen more in land grabs to clear the indigenous people, not due to tech.

mips_avatar 4 days ago

Ok well I didn't meet everyone in Vienna or Vietnam, but those I did meet hadn't been laid off in the name of AI (yesterday three of my friends were laid off from Amazon). And if you're laid off in Vienna you still have access to healthcare, and there's a functioning safety net, and just generally a sense that you're not alone in this. In the united states my apartment has a homeless man living beneath it and every night you hear him either screaming because he doesn't have access to drugs or laughing because he does. There's a not so subtle attitude that maybe people like that deserve to die. So yes maybe people in Vienna don't like AI, but you are wrong that they fear it in the way Americans do.

  • tim333 3 days ago

    I think US social issues and AI are rather separate. We have quite a few AI worriers from the UK, Hinton being maybe the best known.

  • ewuhic 4 days ago

    You have a very rosy picture of non-Pax-Americana.

    • mips_avatar 4 days ago

      Well I also visited Ethiopia this year and I got to hear first hand about the genocide in Tigray, I'm very aware of the horrifying atrocities that happen when social order and human rights break down.