Comment by embedding-shape

> Network effect is killer. "better" would include having more than 3 billion people already on it.

At one point people moved from something else to Whatsapp, and that happened before Whatsapp had 3 billion people on it. If it's good, early adopters will adopt it and want others to adopt it too, then it snowballs from there.

It has happened before, and as long as new regulation doesn't solidify Whatsapp/FB in their position, it can happen again :)

riffraff 4 days ago

WhatsApp happened at a time when, in Europe, you paid for SMS.

WhatsApp allowed people to send SMS without paying, or rather, paying just once to buy the app, so it was instantly valuable if you just convinced your spouse or parents or a single friend to install it.

To overcome it now, you need a lot more effort (or rely on enshittification, which I'm sure will happen).

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embedding-shape 4 days ago

No, before Whatsapp, people were mostly using Facebook messages, at least where I lived at the time.
And no one was paying per SMS at the time we were using SMS for communication, almost everyone I know were on monthly plans that gave you N text messages and N minutes of calls for static sum each month.
The first people I saw who started using whatsapp, was people who were communicating across the border, because even if you had a monthly plan, those didn't include international messages. Eventually we all converged on whatsapp because that's what outside family and relatives used anyways.

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- vlovich123 4 days ago
  
  WhatsApp launched in January of 2009 compared with Facebook Chat which launched in 2008. WhatsApp saw drastically wider adoption among the general populace and paying for “N text messages per month” is precisely what people refer to as paying per message - WhatsApp had unlimited messaging.
  
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  embedding-shape 4 days ago
  
  Is "Facebook Chat" not the same as "Facebook Messenger", the separate chat client? Because I seem to remember a lot of people using the chat built-in into Facebook (not Messenger) a lot earlier than the standalone app/client, maybe I misrecall.
  > paying for “N text messages per month” is precisely what people refer to as paying per message
  Maybe I said it wrong, "N text messages per month" for me means "Pay us 10 EUR per month, send up to 5000 messages" for example. Doesn't matter how many you send, you pay the same.
  While "pay per message" is "Every text message you send, costs 0.01 EUR". Maybe I'm using the wrong words, but that's how I understand it.
  Most of the people who were "texters" (in my circles) were on plans offering the first way of paying, while hardly anyone was doing it the second.
  Another important part, was that most telecom's had free SMS and calls if you were with the same company (and still do, AFAIK), so constant bickering about what plan people are on and why they don't change so it's free and yadda yadda.
  Many people were already mostly texting for free at this point.
  
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