Comment by wsve

Comment by wsve 4 days ago

I tried to make this shift, but managed to somehow brick Linux Mint, so now I'm back on Windows for now...

I was already not very impressed when I attempted to okay a video file, and VLC told me I didn't have the right codec installed, and I had to run a shell command to get the codec... I have to open a shell to watch a common video file?

But then while attempting to install some packages to install Steam (which I also needed shell commands for...), I updated some kernel package, as instructed, rebooted my machine, and now Mint just sits there doing nothing right after I get through the bootloader. Can't seem to run any commands to recover either.

Bricking Mint is annoying, but I was much more astonished that I saw so many people hold up Mint as this beacon of user friendly Linux distros, but to do even the most basic things, I had to start running commands on the shell. That is NOT user friendly. I'll probably try again soon, but I'm pretty disappointed in my first experience.

mixmastamyk 4 days ago

No such thing as brick when you have a “live drive” available. Reinstall and be up again in a half hour.

The codec issues are caused by the companies that make them, not a free operating system. Next time download an open codec movie or install from the “store” GUI.

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wsve 4 days ago

You're slightly missing the point. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter to me, the end user, whose fault it is that my OS doesn't have codecs.
The problem is that when doing an extremely basic operation that works on every system I've used before, it doesn't work, and the most readily available advice on how to resolve the issue tells me to run commands. Regardless of the reasons why it is that way, it just simply isn't user friendly.

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- nout 3 days ago
  
  Everyone has to balance how much pain they get on Windows from the restarts, slowness, updates, etc versus how much pain they get from occasionally having to run some command in terminal window. I get your points about there being rough edges - the good thing is that Linux is a very good system for fixing Linux issues. Everything is tailored for that :)
  Learning the basics of linux can be very powerful and now with AIs you can get essentially anything done just by asking the AI to give you the right commands. Linux is friendlier to be fixed by AI suggestions, which I think will actually be the big difference this year.
  And to be fair, I'm not a fan of Linux Mint. I much more prefer Debian or Fedora with clean GNOME.
  
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- mixmastamyk 4 days ago
  
  There are tradeoffs in life, not perfection. Bondage vs. convenience, your choice.
  Having to install codecs once every few years is a tiny inconvenience compared to the dystopia offered elsewhere. I also run commands on Win and Mac all the time to fix things. For example Windows wastes tens of gigabytes of space unless you run a couple of inscrutable commands to free it.
  
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  wsve 4 days ago
  
  Let me be clear, I am making only one very specific argument: Linux Mint is not as user friendly as people say. I'm not putting any blame on anyone for it not being user friendly, I am not saying that Mint must be a perfect OS replacement, I'm not saying that it makes Mint a bad OS, etc.. I'm only saying that it's not that user friendly, despite what many people say.
  
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  mixmastamyk 3 days ago
  
  Yes, and I’m saying none of them are, though occasionally it’s luck of the draw. The genius bar exists for a reason, and not only for broken hardware. If you paid for a Linux expert to help it would be similarly easy.
  
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upboundspiral 4 days ago

I can echo problems with Mint.

Currently using https://getaurora.dev which is basically fedora + kde but curated by people that actually care. So codecs are preinstalled, and other sensible defaults out of the box which makes sense as its in the same family as bazzite (without the gaming focus).

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wsve 4 days ago

I might actually check that out, that sounds right up my alley

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throwa356262 4 days ago

I think the steam thing was solved some years ago after being featured on LTT.

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