Comment by kreetx

Comment by kreetx 5 days ago

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How it went down was while the gun was taken away, somebody yelled "gun", then guns were drawn, then the victims gun went off which triggered police starting shooting. If this were the events, the first shot was what unfortunately triggered the tragedy that followed, as the law enforcement officers probably thought that the person being arrested was shooting.

To me this looks like an unfortunate sequence of events rather than your judgement from the high horse of perfect information.

If you go to a protest, best leave your (legal) weapons at home, don't interfere nor resist law enforcement.

Also, if you want a better government, you should vote one in the office and not fuel these events after the fact.

howlingfantods 4 days ago

Where is it confirmed that Pretti's gun went off? The only place I see this theory is /r/conservative...

You're arguing that an acceptable, albeit unfortunate, punishment for civil disobedience is state murder.

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lm28469 5 days ago

> then the victims gun went off which triggered police starting shooting.

None of the videos show that at all, the victim's gun is safely brought away, clearly visible from multiple point of view

What's also clearly visible is that a masked gentleman from ICE get his gun out, instantly put his finger on the trigger and aim for the victim's back/head

> rather than your judgement from the high horse of perfect information.

Again, they're not a biker gang, they should be well trained and not shoot when someone yells "gun". Some seem to have been scared by their shots coming from their fellow brain dead colleagues.

> don't interfere nor resist law enforcement.

Yes, lick the boot and let the popo do whatever they want regardless of legality

Of course when all you do is gargle the popo's balls, follow orders, believe state propaganda and turn a blind eye when provided with video evidences the whole thing is a simple "unfortunate sequence of events", meanwhile in any other advanced societies it would be an instant scandal with severe repercussions on everyone involved

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  • kreetx 5 days ago

    The people involved can't recreate the past, now with better information. But I can tell you that showing up in a protest with a gun, and also putting your hands on a law enforcement officer aren't good ideas.

    Overall, restricting police work but calling these protests, aren't a good strategy either. The presidential vote is over, the majority wants this. It's you who's subject to the losing side's propaganda.

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    • lm28469 5 days ago

      > Overall, restricting police work but calling these protests, aren't a good strategy either.

      Happens all the time in dozens of civilised countries without anyone getting magdumped.

      > The presidential vote is over, the majority wants this.

      Majority... of voters. He's at less than 40% approval right now. And even if, that's not how democracy works, elections aren't a 1 time card to do whatever the fuck you want for the next X years

      > It's you who's subject to the losing side's propaganda.

      I don't even live in that shit hole, I have no horses in the race, simply eyes to see. Only a rotten americanoid brain could see this and be like "oh well it's really unfortunate BUT ... he kinda deserved it you know, guns and shit"

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      • kreetx 4 days ago

        If you approve of interfering with police work then we won't be finding middle ground here. Perhaps the special ingredient in the US is the popularity of carrying weapons, it's know to cause other shootings as well.

        As for approval ratings, I'm sure you know elections work: they happen periodically and the approval ratings don't have a direct effect on current events. Also, deporting illegals (what these protests are against) was on the campaign platform, so it's nowhere near "whatever the f. you want".

        As you, I also have "eyes to see" which still makes the basis I'm coming from. And I'm also not American.

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