dijit 4 days ago

Yes, I paid for Windows 11. It came bundled with the £1,900 laptop I bought. The fact that the licence cost is hidden in the hardware price doesn't make it free.

And even if it were free, which it isn't, that still wouldn't justify ads. Android is free. Linux is free. Neither ships with gambling app promotions in the system UI.

Microsoft made $20 billion in Windows revenue last year. They're not a scrappy startup looking for alternative monetisation. The ads exist because they can get away with it, not because they need to.

  • rmunn 4 days ago

    > The fact that the licence cost is hidden in the hardware price doesn't make it free.

    I appreciate manufacturers who make this obvious. For example, when I bought the Framework laptop I'm using now, the OS choices were preinstalled Windows 11 (default selection), preinstalled Linux (-$150), none/I'll install my own (-$150). Made it clear exactly what I would have been paying for the Windows license if I had chosen Windows.

  • Gander5739 4 days ago

    Many variants of Android ship with ads, particularly on cheaper phones. Xiaomi phones for instance.

    • dijit 4 days ago

      Let me know when Android base OS has ads in the UI.

      If the largest advertising company on the planet isn’t making it part of the base operating system — then that should tell you something, don’t you think?

      • Gander5739 4 days ago

        Does the vanilla OS even run on any phones? To my knowledge a large part of the system functionality is implemented through google play services which isn't open source (and that's presumably why it's not part of the base system).

somerandomqaguy 4 days ago

OEM volume pricing is $20 USD or so for system builders like Dell, HP, etc last time I saw it, but that was a long time ago. So technically yes it was purchased if you bought a system, it was just built into the price.

layer8 4 days ago

Not really. Only upgrading an existing Windows 10 installation is free.