Comment by jermaustin1

Comment by jermaustin1 4 days ago

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Or better than that, loans backed by assets above some "jumbo" threshold ($10M?) triggers a capital gain on those assets in the collateral.

So if you get a $150M loan off of your amazon shares that on paper are worth $150M, but you paid $100M, you have a cap-gain of $40M, and at 20% tax, $8M fills the IRS's coffers.

uqual 4 days ago

This is something I've been in favor of for some time.

Obviously the tax basis in the assets would also be stepped up by this action.

The US should also get rid of the step up in basis at death. The recipient of an illiquid asset such as a family business should have a period of time (perhaps five or ten years from the triggering death depending on the type of asset) to "pay up" the tax basis "to market" at the time of death. Gains in liquid assets (such as publicly traded stock) should be taxed at the market value at the time of death by the estate or trust and passed on to beneficiaries with that adjusted tax basis.

  • jermaustin1 4 days ago

    > The US should also get rid of the step up in basis at death.

    This would actually fix the issue without my suggestion, but it is a harder pill to swallow for the "soon to be rich" Americans that tend to vote against their current economic interests.

    • DenisM 4 days ago

      That classic argument for step up is that a farmer’s son inheriting the farm suddenly owes a lot of taxes which he can’t pay without selling the farm.

      Is this a real problem? And how do we fix that?

      • AuthAuth 4 days ago

        It is a real problem but its presented in a misleading way.

        If you inherit a farm worth 1m and you have to pay estate taxes on that of 100k. You do not have to sell the farm, you can instead take out a mortgage to cover that 100k.

        When we frame it that we its still very fair to the person inheriting the farm because who wouldnt want a $1m farm for 100k.

      • jermaustin1 4 days ago

        You fix it by sidestepping it. Don't do it, even though it is the simplest/easiest to implement, and instead create 5 other laws that surround it and accomplish the same goal. Loop the hole back a them.