jdiff 4 days ago

That's not a punishment.

  • wiseowise 4 days ago

    What is it if not a punishment? If you’re a high earner (not obscene earner, mind you) you already pay 50+% in taxes, on top of that you now have to pay even more?

  • danslo 4 days ago

    It is as long as they're not refunding you when you make a loss.

    • zbentley 4 days ago

      Couldn’t it just as easily be equivalent to saying “you grew this year, so contribute some money back to society for enabling you to have the educated hiring base/financial infrastructure/physical infrastructure that enabled you to grow”?

      Like, sure, you don’t owe growth taxes for a quarter when you didn’t grow. But why should you be refunded just because prior taxable growth isn’t denominated in money in a bank account?

      • wiseowise 4 days ago

        > you grew this year, so contribute some money back to society for enabling you to have the educated hiring base/financial infrastructure/physical infrastructure that enabled you to grow

        Apparently paying for gas, water, electricity, property taxes, taxes on everything you buy isn’t enough, now you have to “contribute for enabling”. What’s next? Pay because they “enable you to breathe”?

        • robocat 4 days ago

          Plus ignoring that our society depends on businesses.

          I have low opinions about unbalanced one sided arguments.

RGamma 4 days ago

The system that exists in Germany has you pay 25% Abgeltungssteuer even on unrealized gains but those taxes can be deducted when you sell. Only in the event you sell at net loss do you not get that back.

States are in dire need of liquidity. Just look at global debt.