Comment by kreetx

Comment by kreetx 5 days ago

50 replies

One person showed up with a gun, the other tried to flee (or run over) an officer.

Wold you as a police officer always behave perfectly in any urgent situation?

array_key_first 4 days ago

Trying to flee is famously not a justification for murder, if anything it's the opposite. You're literally kicking someone while they're down. Or, uh, shooting them. Obviously a fleeing person is not a threat to your life, which is the ONLY justification for a shooting.

  • kreetx 4 days ago

    Why would you flee from law enforcement, or why would you try to run them over?

    • array_key_first 4 days ago

      It's not relevant because neither are justications for a shooting.

      Why did George Floyd counterfeit a 20 or whatever? I don't know, but I do know he deserved due process, not a public execution. Regardless of your political affiliation.

      Also, nobody tried to run anyone over. That's just straight up not true and I won't humor it, so don't bother.

      • kreetx 3 days ago

        There is a video of the woman either doing a getaway or a runover. I don't quite get why would you do that while you are being stopped by law enforcement. And it's also apparently dangerous.

0dayz 4 days ago

So anytime an officer kills a person with a gun, that is now justified?

Despite the fact that the man in question that was killed had a legal permit for said gun AND 1 of the ICE agent even took his gun away and despite this was shot to death while lying on the ground?

So where is the urgency? Not enough KDA ratio to score high enough on the scoreboard?

  • kreetx 4 days ago

    Your version seems to be that they randomly opened fire. Another version is that a gun went off, not all of the officers knew where the victims gun was, they had also heard someone yell "gun", so after the first shot they opened fire.

    It's not that you can be shot at by law enforcement when you are carrying a gun, but that you can be shot at when there is an apparent reason that you are firing at them with it. I'm sure ICE isn't happy about how the events turned out either. But for the protesters: just don't bring a gun!

    • ok_dad 4 days ago

      if the pigs are so scared of guns they should quit.

      i was a trained military security officer and i never just drew my gun and shot a guy because i heard a word shouted that was scary.

      also: we have a 2nd amendment right to carry guns

      melt ice.

      • kreetx 4 days ago

        Perhaps you are an exception but almost all people are afraid of death. If a person opposing you has a gun then most people get scared.

        I'm not debating 2nd amendment. But if you bring a gun to an event already filled with law enforcement, what is your intention?

    • 0dayz 4 days ago

      All your post is showing is that you haven't watched the video.

      So at least stop lying and spreading an alternative fantasy world.

      On top of this you didn't answer the question: is now any person killed by an officer justified if they got a legal gun on them?

      There is no gun shot before the ice office opens fire in any of the 5 different angles of footage we got.

      And not only that you change the story midway, first it was heard a gun shit now it's being shot at.

      And the guy shooting clearly saw the gun as it was right next to him.

      The mental gymnastics you display is worthy of Olympic gold I'll give you that.

vharuck 4 days ago

If you have the right to bear arms, but law enforcement officers can shoot you if they spot that gun, then you don't actually have the right to bear arms.

  • kreetx 4 days ago

    You do have the right to bear arms but bearing arms conveys a meaning, that you'd see a reason to use it, so if you have a gun at an event where there are ample amounts of law enforcement present, against who would you be protecting yourself?

dannyfreeman 4 days ago

It is famously against the law to own a gun, and carry it with a permit in the United States.

  • kreetx 4 days ago

    It's famously peaceful if you carry a gun to a protest and it famously drives no officer around you even more to their edge.

    • dannyfreeman 4 days ago

      If these cowardly goons are afraid of American citizens exercising their second amendment rights they should find another job.

      • kreetx 4 days ago

        As should you refrain from making assesments on human psychology if you are not able to do so.

    • DangitBobby 4 days ago

      My man loves that boot.

      • kreetx 4 days ago

        If only take sides and don't make any actual arguments, then unfortunately you won't convince anyone either.

    • anthonypasq 4 days ago

      didnt realize the punishment for that was death

    • spacechild1 4 days ago

      Interesting. When people who stormed the Capitol openly carried assault rifles, MAGA had no problem with it. They called them patriots and peaceful protesters.

      • kreetx 4 days ago

        It's not about people carrying a gun at all, it's that should you carry a gun to a protest and should you engage in resisting to law enforcement while doing that. Had this person been perfectly still, he'd be still alive. (And also, had he not had that gun, but still resisted, he'd likely would have also been alive.)