Comment by deaux

Comment by deaux 5 days ago

7 replies

You're not just being naive, you're ignoring the blatant reality. 2016 DNC is enough evidence that yes, the core of the party is very much in on it.

gcanyon 4 days ago

Can you expand on this, because I'm not understanding what your grief with the 2016 DNC is. I'll help speed the process saying: 1. I voted for Bernie in the primary 2. I fully recognize -- and we all should -- that the DNC is not beholden to us to run the primary in a particular way. Until some point in the 20th century nominees were literally decided in backroom deals without primaries influencing anything. So the idea that they "robbed" us of the Bernie candidacy doesn't hold sway with me (if that's what you're arguing) even though I supported him myself.

  • deaux 4 days ago

    The issue isn't not choosing Bernie, it's knowingly picking the only candidate who could possibly lose. Because as GP said, they're in on the game. The goal wasn't to pick who they sincerely believed to be the best candidate for the country, including both fitness and likelihood of winning. So it's theatre, as they pretend to put the populace first, but clearly they don't.

    • parasubvert 4 days ago

      Or perhaps, the base and establishment of the Democratic Party (ie. moderate black people) rejected Bernie because they felt he was a bad choice.

      This Bernie trutherism is really getting old, it's been disproven so many times.

      • deaux 4 days ago

        You're reading things that aren't there. There was an endless supply of other options, not just Bernie. Projecting things onto others is getting old.

    • gcanyon 4 days ago

      Wait, so your theory is that the Dems:

         1. Knew that Hilary Clinton would lose to Trump
         2. Engineered the primary to select her as their nominee *because* of (1)?
      
      That would require an enormous conspiracy, and as many have demonstrated, a conspiracy of that scale cannot operate in secret.
      • deaux 4 days ago

        No, I didn't imply that anywhere. Not sure how you read that. They knew she was a very poor pick in terms of "good for the whole populace" and "maximizing the chances of winning", yet chose her despite that, not because of it. The theater is the pretending that they have the best for the populace in mind, which directly contradicts this.