antirez 21 hours ago

Sciascia, btw, is one of the biggest thinkers and writers of '900. It is not really defined by his mafia-related novels and takes. He used to be friend with Borges, and was regarded as one of the top men in humanistic culture. Disclaimer: I was born in a town (Campobello di Licata) near his town (Racalmuto), but I'm not saying this because of this fact.

If you never read Sciascia, I suggest you starting from his last, tiny novel: "Una storia semplice". I believe there are English translations that can be found around as ebook or used on eBay.

  • etherus 8 hours ago

    As an aside, do you use dvorak as your keyboard layout? The ' for 1 typo is quite rare with qwerty, but I could see you meaning '1900s, though that becomes two characters in a short space. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • silcoon 11 hours ago

    Truly great Italian literature. Also “The day of the Owl” is another famous Sciascia’s book with old mafia theme.

  • nine_k 10 hours ago

    Nit: I suppose you mean 1900s, not just "'900". I mean, one could reasonably suspect that good writers existed in Italy in early 10th century, too.

weinzierl a day ago

Reminds me of the story of Andre Camara, who photographed a favela drug war in the mid 80s.

Take away: criminals are vain too.

  • articulatepang a day ago

    For those who don’t know: the film City of God is based on this, and it’s a great movie. One of my all-time favorites. The directing, acting photography and storytelling are all very well done. Worth anyone’s time.

    • barrenko a day ago

      I have to rewatch what, been a decade.

      • noduerme 21 hours ago

        From 2002. It's crazy how happy I was to have 360p mpeg rips back then. I'm gonna have to re-pirate it tonight.

  • rayiner 15 hours ago

    Same thing with the Taliban: https://apimagesblog.com/blog/2021/10/4/taliban-portraits

    By the way, there is a Taliban who looks exactly like Christian Bale: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/13EB0/pr...

    • cucumber3732842 14 hours ago

      Why wouldn't an up and coming government administration want to take professional photos and engage in all the other trappings of legitimate government?

      • inglor_cz 13 hours ago

        One interesting thing about the situation is that Islamic religious authorities used to have conflicting views on permissibility of portraits and depictions of living beings in general, which is also why so much Islamic medieval art is abstract. Abstract art was religiously safe.

        Ubiquity and practicality of photography basically destroyed the restrictive side of the conflict. As you can see, even the Taliban seems to be on the permissive side now.

        (IIRC some of the most extreme forms of Islamic State in Syria/Iraq tried to ban photography of humans and animals.)

  • jama211 a day ago

    Yup, they want to be documented. Tale as old as time.

alexpotato 11 hours ago

My mom, who is from Italy, has some great lines about the Mafia:

"Italy will never go bankrupt b/c we have the Pope AND the Mafia"

I once asked her how the Mafia was reined in and she mentioned:

"The Mafia was once trying to kill some judge or politician and they blew up several hundred meters of highway to do it. They also killed a lot of innocent people and the outcry was so big that the Carbinieri(Italian FBI) got involved."

  • toyg 8 hours ago

    Carabinieri have been involved with (and occasionally fighting) the mafia since late 1800s. That's got nothing to do with how we got to the current situation of relative tranquility.

    What happened between the end of the 1980s and the 1990s was that, because of continuous feuds among mafiosi that produced too many civilian victims, political connections broke down, particularly with a few especially vicious bosses. Laws were passed to isolate the worst offenders, new connections were brokered with more moderate mafia leaders, and eventually the "bad" bosses were magically found, hiding more or less in plain sight.

  • pizza234 10 hours ago

    > the Carbinieri(Italian FBI)

    Carabinieri are actually military-status police force in Italy, which is a different setup from the FBI in the US.

    Calling them the Italian FBI, is ironically quite funny, because in Italy they’re the butt of a lot of jokes - "carabiniere" is a common stand-in for "someone dumb".

    • fragmede 5 hours ago

      Depends how your bubble portrays the FBI to you, I suppose.

rayiner 17 hours ago

Do all countries have something like an Italian mafia? Is there a German or British mafia of a similar scale and sophistication, but we just call them something else?

  • toyg 8 hours ago

    There used to be, but afaik modern networks are largely led by Balkan groups across the whole of Europe.

  • Carrok 16 hours ago

    Most just call them the government.

  • j3th9n 9 hours ago

    In The Netherlands it’s called D66.

sooheon 20 hours ago

The 2020 adaptation of ZeroZeroZero, mentioned in this article, is one of the best crime shows I've ever seen, with basically zero buzz. Pretty interesting reading the reason for the authenticity.

  • oriettaxx 16 hours ago

    where is it mentioned?

    ZeroZeroZero is by Saviano, article is about Sciascia.

    • sooheon 6 hours ago

      My bad, went down rabbit hole and got my writers/links confused.

reddalo a day ago

Off topic, but I'm always amazed by Archive.md/.is/whatever. To this day I don't understand how they manage to bypass a lot of paywalls.

The mystery about the owner makes it even more intriguing.

  • LordHeini 13 hours ago

    I think archive has mostly news, random articles and such.

    And as they say nothing is more worthless than yesterday's news.

  • amouat a day ago

    I assume they just pretend to be the Googlebot so the site just gives the text.

    • dewey 19 hours ago

      Won’t work for any popular site. You can try that easily by using extensions to set the user agent. If you are not checking the public list of IPs that Google publishes for the crawler you are doing it wrong.

  • silcoon 19 hours ago

    Maybe they have a paid account? I don’t think there’s much magic behind

    • blast 11 hours ago

      Publications could use watermarking to encode the name of the account an article is being served to, but they don't seem to. I wonder why.

  • jama211 a day ago

    I just assumed they copied it into their own db

  • moffkalast 21 hours ago

    Given to how many people its existence must be incredibly infuriating, it's so odd that it's not being chased down with more haste than pirate bay was. I mean I'm glad it's not, but kinda surprised.

    • nosafemode 16 hours ago

      There has been some dns resolver issues, some DNS resolvers wont return the address to the sites like archive.is or sites like Annas Archive

    • dewey 19 hours ago

      The music or movie industry lobby is much more aggressive I’d assume.

newsclues 21 hours ago

Modern version has spawned TV show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Saviano

  • lormayna 21 hours ago

    Saviano is exactly one of the "antimafia professionals" that Sciascia complained about.

    • newsclues 16 hours ago

      Sciascia Died in 89, Saviano was 10 years old and wouldn’t start writing until the early 2000s.

      • lormayna 15 hours ago

        It's not about the year of birth, it's about the role. Saviano creates his own career with mafia and now is acting as opinionist to any other option (i.e. now about the constitutional referendum that "will enforce the mafia").

        Falcone, Borsellino, Livatino, Don Puglisi (just to mention people that paid with their own life) fight heavily against mafia, but they never converted this fight in a career.

null_deref a day ago

It angers me that Fascist Italy could push the Mafia to the brink of extinction but Democratic Italy can’t.

  • viktorcode 21 hours ago

    They pushed them out of Italy, which forced mafia to adapt in the US, eventually becoming richer and stronger. A much more powerful transnational mafia returned back to Italy.

    • oriettaxx 16 hours ago

      by "they" do you mean Mussolini?

      What exactly Leonardo Sciascia mean in his "Porte Aperte" is the fascism merely "anesthetize" the mafia rather than eradicating it (gaining temporary Sicilian consent through illusionary repression)

  • mikkupikku 18 hours ago

    The purpose of democracy is to create stable governance with peaceful transitions of power, so that people feel confident about the future and are willing to invest in long term things that require long term stability. It's not because we think the plebiscite are really wise and effective at governing, they're not, but stability is more important and ultimately more humane than government which is truly effective but not stable in the long run.

  • markus_zhang 10 hours ago

    Mafia exists because legal entities refuse to take responsibilities —- oh it’s too expensive to do X so we will leave it alone or legalize it. So eventually the underground takes over and Mafia becomes quasi governments.

    To eradicate you need a stronger central government that is willing to send its probes into the deepest of the society and has a strong hand. Unfortunately this also has unforeseen consequences as well so is not everyone’s cup. Some societies prefer a stronger central government and some don’t.

  • silcoon 19 hours ago

    Did they? I’m pretty sure that’s just political propaganda of the regime.

  • locallost a day ago

    One Mafia pushed the other out. No improvement for normal people.

  • karmakurtisaani 18 hours ago

    I don't doubt that a fascist regime can solve problems like organized crime effectively. This is because they don't need to care about human rights or the rule of law. The problem is that once the mob is gone, the fascists stay.

  • nkrisc 21 hours ago

    That’s just the state mafia replacing the other.

  • trhway 21 hours ago

    With Putin's Russia transition to authoritarian and recently becoming fully totalitarian, the Russian Mafia of 90s (with the 90s being the most democratic time in Russian history), is pretty much no more. FSB and police have replaced them in the protection and extortion domain. Thus nowdays an arrested colonel of FSB or police may easily have a couple cubic meters of money (euro and dollars) at home, to the envy of many mafioso around the world. Or Chechnja - instead of many smaller (and poorer and less organized) warlords of 90s, now there is only one with personal army of 40000 and exploiting the whole region in the style of the most cruel mafia.

    • pandajoy 19 hours ago

      How about America? And what about Trump?

      • y-curious 17 hours ago

        America doesn’t have bribery! It has “lobbying”. This has been a problem long before Trump made it shameless.

  • MrBuddyCasino a day ago

    They can, they just don’t do it. This is the case in every western „liberal democracy“.

    • alecco a day ago

      They just loooooove the campaign contributions.

  • blell a day ago

    Why does that anger you? Democracy is fundamentally unable to solve such issues.

    • Etheryte 21 hours ago

      Nearly every democratic country in the world is a counter example to this, what do you mean exactly?

      • dauertewigkeit 20 hours ago

        Not true. Organized crime operates largely where people have money, i.e. in Europe, it's mostly UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Sweden...etc.

    • null_deref 21 hours ago

      Please elaborate I think there’re quite a few examples that contradict this