sejje 5 days ago

You should probably make your argument with names.

  • ceejayoz 5 days ago

    V.M.L.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportat...

    > U.S. District Judge Terry Doughty, a Trump appointee, said the child — identified in court papers by the initials “V.M.L.” — appeared to have been released in Honduras earlier Friday, along with her Honduran-born mother and sister, who had been detained by immigration officials earlier in the week.

    > The judge on Friday scheduled a hearing for May 16, which he said was “in the interest of dispelling our strong suspicion that the Government just deported a U.S. citizen with no meaningful process.”

    • sejje 4 days ago

      This child's mother had a choice to bring her along or not, and she brought her.

      https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25919906-vml-v-harpe...

      My translation: "Jenny Carolina Lopez: I'm taking my daughter V.M.L. (unredacted) with me to Honduras."

      The judge received a petition from non-family that said a US citizen was being deported. He inquired, and found out that it was the mother's choice, not ICE's.

      "On April 25, 2025, Judge Doughty issued a memorandum order addressing the emergency petition. 2025 WL 1202548. The order acknowledged the serious due process concerns raised by the petition and scheduled a hearing for May 16, 2025, to determine whether the government had unlawfully deported a U.S. citizen without providing a meaningful opportunity to challenge her removal. Despite the scheduled hearing, on May 8, 2025, the parties filed a joint stipulation of dismissal, and the case was closed without a ruling on the merits."

      https://clearinghouse.net/case/46497/

      Next.

      Also, does the difficulty in surfacing a case not give you a clue that this is not a problem?

      • ceejayoz 4 days ago

        > This child's mother had a choice to bring her along or not, and she brought her.

        A Trump-appointed Federal judge clearly did not find that excuse compelling.

        The same org claimed Alex Pretti was an assassin who was attempting to massacre ICE, remember. They lie; that's a matter of public record.

        They allege the note you link was coerced:

        https://nipnlg.org/sites/default/files/2025-07/2025_jvl-acun...

        "Some time that night, an officer who was supervising Julia and her daughters at the hotel instructed Julia to write down on a piece of paper that her U.S. citizen daughter Jade will travel to Honduras with her. When Julia objected, the officer threatened Julia that Jade would be immediately sent to a foster home in the United States if Julia did not write a note stating that Jade would be deported to Honduras with her. Under duress, Julia did as instructed and wrote down in Spanish: “I will bring my daughter [Jade] with me to Honduras.”"

        > He inquired, and found out that it was the mother's choice, not ICE's.

        That's directly contradicted by your link; "the case was closed without a ruling on the merits".

        > does the difficulty in surfacing a case

        I have no difficulty at all finding this case; I replied to your comment about five minutes after you posted it.