Comment by justin66

Comment by justin66 5 days ago

10 replies

It's a downgrade that we have no choice but to accept in order to continue using our machines. Anyone familiar with Microsoft or Apple already knows that's the future.

simoncion 5 days ago

> It's a downgrade that we have no choice but to accept in order to continue using our machines.

Odd. Xorg still works fine [0], and we'll see how XLibre pans out.

[0] I'm using it right now, and it's still getting updates.

  • ok123456 5 days ago

    They're trying to "nudge" everyone. Major desktop environments and entire distributions are removing X11 support to varying degrees. A lot of this is because they can't get their adoption rates above about half due to various broken workflows or simply user preference.

    They intentionally don't want you to keep using X11, and they'll keep turning up the heat on the pot until we're all boiling.

    Gnome just removed the middle-click paste option. Is that because they fixed the clipboard situation on Linux, and there's a universal, unambiguous way of cut and paste that works across every application? No. It's because middle-click to paste is an "X-ism." This is just demagoguery and unserious.

    • fmoralesc 4 days ago

      > Gnome just removed the middle-click paste option. Is that because they fixed the clipboard situation on Linux, and there's a universal, unambiguous way of cut and paste that works across every application? No. It's because middle-click to paste is an "X-ism." This is just demagoguery and unserious.

      They disabled it by default. You can enable it if you want.

      • account42 4 days ago

        We all know that that's a precursor to removing a feature entirely because "telemetry shows it isn't being used".

    • simoncion 4 days ago

      > They're trying to "nudge" everyone.

      Once again, Gentoo Linux proves (somewhat regrettably) to be one of the best Linux distros out there. OpenRC and Xorg as defaults, with SystemD and Wayland as supported options is quite a lovely way to do things.

      > Gnome just removed the middle-click paste option.

      Gnome removes useful things all the time. "The Gnome folks do something user-hostile just because they feel like it" isn't news; that's been going on for decades. This habit of theirs is a big reason why I've been using KDE for a very long time.

      • account42 4 days ago

        Unfortunately I don't think Gentoo will keep X11 support in e.g. KDE once its dropped upstream (which is already announced), they don't have the manpower for that.

        And KDE itself is also not the bastion of user choice it once was, even if they haven't yet gone quite as hostile as Gnome.