Comment by grayhatter

Comment by grayhatter 3 hours ago

> Having the ability to start OpenCode, give it an issue, add a little extra context, and have the issue completed without writing a single line of code?

Is this a good thing? I'm asking why you said it like this, I'm not asking you to defend anything. I'm genuinely curious about your rational/reasoning/context for why you used those words specifically?

I ask, because I wouldn't willingly phrase it like this. I enjoy writing code. The expression of the idea, while not even close to value I assign to fixing the thing, still has meaning.

e.g. I would happily share code my friend wrote that fixed something. But I wouldn't take and pride in it. Is that difference irrelevant to you, or do you still feel that sense of significance when an LLM emits the code for you?

> should still acknowledge that this is a massive leap in capabilities and our field is changed forever.

Equally, I don't think I have to agree with this. Our field is likely changed, arguably for the worse if the default IDE now requires a monthly rent payment. But I have only found examples of AI generating boiler plate. If it's not able to copy the code from some other existing source, it's unable to emit anything functional. I wouldn't agree that's a massive leap. Boilerplate has always been the least significant portion of code, no?

aprdm 10 minutes ago

We are paid to solve business problems and make money.

People who enjoy writing code can still do so, just not on a business context if there's a more optimal way

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JeremyNT an hour ago

Cards on the table: this stuff saps the joy from something I loved doing, and turns me into a manager of robots.

I feel like it's narrowly really bad for me. I won't get rich and my field is becoming something far from what I signed up for. My skills long developed are being devalued by the second.

I hate that using these tools increases wealth inequality and concentrates power with massive corporations.

I wish it didn't exist. But it does. And these capabilities will be used to build software with far less labor.

Is that trade-off worth the negatives to society and the art of programming? Hard to say really. But I don't get to put this genie back in the bottle.

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grayhatter 11 minutes ago

> Cards on the table: this stuff saps the joy from something I loved doing, and turns me into a manager of robots.
Pick two non-trivial tasks where you feel you can make a half-reasonable estimate on the time it should take, then time yourself. I'd be willing to bet that you don't complete it significantly faster with AI. And if you're not faster using AI, maybe ignore it like I and many others. If you enjoy writing code, keep writing code, and ignore the people lying because they need to spread FUD so they can sell something.
> But I don't get to put this genie back in the bottle.
Sounds like you've already bought into the meme that AI is actually magical, and can do everything the hype train says. I'm unconvinced. Just because there's smoke coming from the bottle doesn't mean it's a genie. What's more likely, magic is real? Or someone's lying to sell something?

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