like_any_other 3 hours ago

Don't buy into that framing either. Optional scanning - if a user wants to, they are free to download government spyware onto their phone/computer and do all the scanning they want, local or otherwise. No new laws needed.

  • rdm_blackhole 3 hours ago

    I agree. If someone is happy for a government worker/algorithm to snoop through everything they send to anyone, feel free to opt in, just don't force us to participate.

    • tremon an hour ago

      But that someone is forcing all their contacts into the snooping scheme unless they never communicate with anyone.

      • rdm_blackhole 28 minutes ago

        That is why I said for them and their family.

        If you use app A and that app is scanned for "malicious" content then I will message you on app B where there is no such scanning. If you don't want to use app B then I guess we can't be friends.

        I mean at some point you need to make some choices.

        But the beauty is that if anyone wants to talk through app A exclusively and their contacts are happy to respond on the same platform, then they can do that.

        The rest of us can use app B.

    • Natfan 2 hours ago

      if it provably isn't networked and is ephemeral with no logging, then i potentially don't have an issue with it

      • like_any_other 2 hours ago

        You have no issue with censorship, as long as there's no surveillance to go with it?