Comment by JohnMakin

Comment by JohnMakin a day ago

9 replies

Siri is objectively bad though. It isn't some vendetta. I am disabled and there are at least 50 different things that I'd love siri to do that should be dead simple, yet it cannot. My favorite one was when I suffered a small but not serious fall, decided to test whether siri could be alerted to call 9-11 while being less than 6 feet away from me, absolutely could not understand let alone execute my request. It's a lot of stuff like this. Its core functionality often just does not work.

> The final issue is that on-device Siri will never perform like server-based ChatGPT. So in a way it's already going to disappoint some users who don't realise that running something on mobile device hardware is going to have compromises which aren't present on a server farm.

For many years, siri requests were sent to an external server. It still sucked.

yreg 14 hours ago

> Hey Siri, call me an ambulance!

> Alright, from now on I will call you Anne Ambulance.

margalabargala a day ago

I don't think the parent said that Siri wasn't bad, on the contrary it sounds like they agree.

Their point is that if Apple totally scraps the current, bad, product called "Siri" and replaces it with an entirely different, much better product that is also named "Siri" but shares nothing but the name, people's perceptions of the current bad Siri will taint their impressions of the new one.

  • quitit 21 hours ago

    It's pretty clear they tried their best to miss or reinterpret the points I made so they could talk about something else.

    • JohnMakin 20 hours ago

      I'm sorry for whatever cynicism leads you to believe this. I don't believe there is an "astroturfer" problem with siri, and that is mostly what I was responding to. Sorry you missed that.

      • quitit 20 hours ago

        Oh that riled you up? Too bad. Better get out your alt accounts to address this great injustice.

        • JohnMakin 12 minutes ago

          Huh? Why are you so upset about such a benign reply responding to astroturfing siri of all things? Have a good one.

Razengan an hour ago

In the 15 years since I've been an Apple user, Siri has never worked for me when I really needed it.

Workaccount2 20 hours ago

I'd be skeptical about even new LLM siri being able to dial 911.

These models tend to have a "mind of their own", and I can totally, absolutely, see a current SOTA LLM convincing itself it needs to call 911 because you asked it how to disinfect a cut.

  • array_key_first 19 hours ago

    Ideally you have a layer before the LLM that filters out stuff the phone can do without an LLM. The LLM probably shouldn't even have the power to call 911, that should be a layer lower. And probably you don't want to send simple queries like "call XYZ" to the cloud, best to just do it locally.