Comment by froddd

Comment by froddd a day ago

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This is absolutely true. The demo in the original article seems quite deceptive in that respect. Nobody would attempt to resize a window by launching their cursor at the corner with great speed as the demo shows. The resize pointer seems to show in exactly the right place, and allows for an extra hit area slightly outside the rounded corner — I don’t see any problem with that.

As for the fact that one cannot resize from inside the window, it makes absolute sense for every other corner of the window, where the user would instead be clicking an icon or some other button (try the top right corner of the finder, where the search button sits).

So, while I agree on the whole that Tahoe is a huge step backwards in terms of design, this seems like an odd gripe to point out, as it doesn’t in fact seem to be an issue at all.

Edit: clarification

pilif a day ago

> As for the fact that one cannot resize from inside the window,

if you check the screencast I posted, you'll see that you can indeed resize from inside the window. Not by a huge margin, but definitely from inside the actual window boundaries.

  • froddd a day ago

    Indeed, just enough. And the correct resize pointer shows all along the rounded edge, so I agree, this doesn’t seem like the problem it’s made out to be.

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Sweepi a day ago

> Nobody would attempt to resize a window by launching their cursor at the corner with great speed as the demo shows.

... great speed? Interpolating from the zoom, I would say its not fast at all.

  • froddd a day ago

    I’m referring to the demo in the original article. The mouse pointer moves rather rapidly onto the inside of the window. You can just about see the resize pointer flashing as the user does so. I don’t think I ever attempted to resize a window with such erratic mouse movements. Approaching the corner at reasonable speed shows the resize pointer where expected.

    • Sweepi a day ago

      > I’m referring to the demo in the original article. The article from noheger.at? I am also referring to it. My guess is that the pointer speed is exaggerated due to zoom of the gif, and/or that we are using the mouse in different ways.

      • froddd a day ago

        Yes, that demo. You can clearly see the resize pointer flashing briefly, but the user continues aiming right inside the window. I’m not sure why he’s not stopping when the resize pointer appears. It seems erratic.

        • afandian a day ago

          Arguably the feedback via the cursor change is feedback to help you learn, like the icons that appear in the close / minimise / zoom, or stickers on the keys of a musical instrument. You pretty quickly learn which one is which, or you can't use them effectively. At some point you'd hope that common actions become muscle memory.

          So if it was something that was learned whilst using the previous version, and worked, I'd argue it wasn't 'erratic'.